Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 11:56 am  

Gotcha wrote:

Again, a comletely simplistic view point.

What if he just wants the chance to develop and prove himself, but want's a career at Leeds? if he is not been played then the best course of action for him to do that and prove something is out on loan. What is the problem with that? it's not necessarily a strop.

The OP, whose sons are coached by Pitts, reckons he's unhappy. If Pitts is making this known to all & sundry it sounds like a strop to me.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:02 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Again, a comletely simplistic view point.

What if he just wants the chance to develop and prove himself, but want's a career at Leeds? if he is not been played then the best course of action for him to do that and prove something is out on loan. What is the problem with that? it's not necessarily a strop.

I would have thought the obvious answer to that would be if you wont let me go on loan, then i must be pretty close to first team here, when do i get my chance and what do i need to keep it.

Im not sure how much you can blame the club when Pitts has been overtaken by the younger Clarkson, and a player who was primarily a centre in Delaney. Its not like we arent giving players a chance in the back row.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:18 pm  

darwoo11 wrote:

Surprised he has been denied a loan for the simple fact he's not very good and will never make it at Headingley.

I hope you never make it TO Headingley.

We can do without the likes of you.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:26 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

I would have thought the obvious answer to that would be if you wont let me go on loan, then i must be pretty close to first team here, when do i get my chance and what do i need to keep it.

Im not sure how much you can blame the club when Pitts has been overtaken by the younger Clarkson, and a player who was primarily a centre in Delaney. Its not like we arent giving players a chance in the back row.

It's maybe not the club's fault that Clarkson and Delaney have emerged as perceived better options ... but it is the club's fault it considers the likes of Kirke are also a better option. If he is considered so unworthy then the least the club can do is allow him to ' kick on ' elsewhere ( if necessary allow a similar Amor like deal ).

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:29 pm  

rhinoms wrote:

Given the fall out from the Pearson take over and sh## slinging aimed at Mrs H and her reign as chair-person i'd say it's more about the Club than Pitts himself.

I was thinking the same.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:38 pm  

SmokeyTA wrote:

I would have thought the obvious answer to that would be if you wont let me go on loan, then i must be pretty close to first team here, when do i get my chance and what do i need to keep it.

Im not sure how much you can blame the club when Pitts has been overtaken by the younger Clarkson, and a player who was primarily a centre in Delaney. Its not like we arent giving players a chance in the back row.

I'm not blaming the club. I am blaming the promises made to Pitts when he signed, the fact that they were going to develop him into a prop due to the shortage we had coming through in that area. He was never going to be a prop in my eyes, but that's irrelevant because that is what he was told. McLennan was the coach at the time, and obviously he changed his mind on that development, and then a change of coach after has not helped the lad to develop his game, whilst signing a boat load of props anyway.

Therefore for me, his best course of action if he want's to get a new contract is to prove himself playing, and the only option he could have to do that is to go on loan.

Why does it always come down to been the players fault what these scenarios arise? Sometimes it's just too much competition or your face doesn't fit.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:41 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

Why does it always come down to been the players fault what these scenarios arise? Sometimes it's just too much competition or your face doesn't fit.

You are right, which brings us right back to point one - ask for a loan to another club if there's a problem with Hull or ask for a release and prove yourself somewhere else - or knuckle down and STFU.

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:50 pm  

thebloodbath wrote:

I hope you never make it TO Headingley.

We can do without the likes of you.

You are Jay Pitt's dad............I claim my £5

But seriously no ill will to the player himself but I don't see how he fits in at Leeds, a new start and hopefully for himself he will progress.

I don't see him doing this at Leeds

By the way who is We?

[Frosties.]

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 12:57 pm  

Gary Hetherington thinking of his conflicts rather than a players progression? well i never!

Re: Jay Pitts denied a loan : Thu Feb 16, 2012 1:03 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

Gary Hetherington thinking of his conflicts rather than a players progression? well i never!

I don't quite follow. Care to expand?