Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 12:29 am  

The 2009 final was a pretty poor spectacle from memory. In terms of real quality 2004 was very good, 2007 Leeds were very good, 2012 was very entertaining as well. Despite being close I'd say the 2015 final wasn't that good either. Finals are often disappointing from that perspective - the NRL GF may have been better quality but as a spectacle was over before half time.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:15 am  

It was teeming it down all game so was very unlikely to be a classic anyway. Thought we played the conditions similar to some of those nights against the great Saints team and Cas were never able to get close to that level on the night hence the reasonably comfortable win for us.

I can see why it would be an instantly forgetable final for the neutral though.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:38 am  

Some absolute corkers still doing the rounds on Facebook.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 5:39 am  

Swoggy Loiner wrote:

Some absolute corkers still doing the rounds on Facebook.

Only the weather, Maguires offside try from Moons high kick , Briscoes forward pass try & Mcguire punching the ball out of Edens hands as he was about to score stopped Cas winning .. 1 win against us in 9 games . We look forward to trouncing you again next season a few times especially without your smuggy half back pairing leaving and you haven't replaced them with anyone of note .

Wow

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:05 am  

Unfortunately, In the heady days of social media you will always see this kind of warped view look like it’s the more popular as it’s so extreme. People just can’t compute that you are not champions if you DONT win the grand finals (you ain’t “league” champions either btw, your league “leaders”)

ATEOTD Cas naively tried to play dry weather RL in the pouring rain,Period. There was no plan b, they also treated the final as a normal league game and repeatedly spurned easy points from kicks that we would have taken.

Experience beats out naivety, that’s not arrogance, that’s a fact. We had a game plan they couldn’t handle, yes the conditions played a part but we were into them from the off, we rattled them, we harried them, we forced them into mistakes and kept turning the tourniquet till they broke.

Clutching at straws looking for excuses does them no favours after such a fine season, but as I said at the beginning, there are a lot of Cas fans who have begrudgingly given Leeds the kudos for getting the job done.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 6:13 am  

It teamed it down in 98 and 99 but I don't remember the same level of handling errors. A fair few of the cas errors were also unforced, they really stunk the place out.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 7:10 am  

I just don't get the criticism aimed at Leeds. Like some have already said, I don't think the result was in doubt after 10 minutes. Stevie Ward said in his post match interview 'listen mate, we could play until next week, and we're not losing that game'. That's not arrogance, just how the players felt, and so it showed. I've never pretended to be a huge fan of Mac, and don't understand a lot of his methods, but I must congratulate the man on his perfect game plan, and his record speaks for itself. Maybe he sees the game in a different light to some of us, but from what I've been told, the players worship him so that'll do for me. Just another great moment from this special club.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:27 am  

Sore losers. Had it not been for Leeds giving up on 79.46 seconds it would have been the first Nil game!

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:40 am  

most of its sour grapes. there was a lot of dropped ball. but as stated it was raining for like 20 hours solid. our game plan and more importantly the execution of it was perfection. it was not a great spectacle for neutrals, but for purists and dare i say it. people who have actually played the game, it was a complete performance.

also think as we did not play to the script and we were meant to turn up and roll over, this as irked a few people who lets face it don't like us winning it all the time.

i actually feel for some of the Cas team, the comments from some of their own fans are poor, bottled it, did not perform, did not try, did not want it, they clearly no nothing of the game, don't think any cas players did not try or bottled anything, it was just not their day and they got well beat by a superior side.

Re: The worst Grand Final of all time? : Fri Oct 13, 2017 8:51 am  

You can count the number of great finals on one hand from a neutral perspective, including the Challenge Cup, and going back further than Super League started. Finals are all about grinding it out, rarely about quality. The final is more about the occasion and the atmosphere around it than the spectacle of the players. As a neutral, and more so those watching on TV, yes I can see it might not be appealing, especially when most fans are biased anyway to a favoured team in a final. But the final is about the two teams there, and experiencing the occasion of it, and that is what makes a good final to them. If those neutrals want it to appeal to them, that will only really happen if their team are there, good luck with that.