Re: Rich Agar : Sat Aug 28, 2021 9:38 am  

If he wants it he should keep it. And let's face it, why wouldn't he want it? Really interested to see what both he and Long can do with all those (hopefully fit) options in the spine positions next year. I think we'll see some great football.

Re: Rich Agar : Sat Aug 28, 2021 11:20 am  

There's no denying that the feeling around the club is 100 x better than it was when he took over the reigns.The coach has earned his shot at another year in charge in my view.My main concern is that the team has failed to close off some games they really should have won.Finding a quality antipodean coach is a bit like Russian roulette with regard to Leeds,(Dean Lance-David Furner ) although Stains seem to have the Midas touch with thier selections.I still think we need further player recruitment to start challenging for trophies.

Re: Rich Agar : Sat Aug 28, 2021 2:57 pm  

Obviously I'd like Leeds to win a GF this year or next, better still both. And I'd hope it'd be Agar in charge. A) for the turnaround he's achieved and b) to show up the dwindling number of wakey and hull followers who still can't bring themselves to admit that he could actually coach after all

Re: Rich Agar : Sun Aug 29, 2021 5:55 pm  

For me he's done what was required considering the basket case he took over.
The CC Win a great bonus ,he has the respect of the squad & board room.
However if we are serious about taking the next step to be top 3 & regular GF contenders for me we need better & at this stage of our progress we need a Tony Smith type Coach who will cut the deadwood & give our best Youngsters the spots they deserve.
I dont think Agar has the nous or cut throat side to do it i really dont.
Also i dont like the excuses around injuries especially when his Squad & game management have contributed to those injuries.
Im happy for him to stay as DOR & Long to stay on the staff but i want a next level Coach.

Re: Rich Agar : Sun Aug 29, 2021 7:17 pm  

Changing coach is probably more of a risk than leaving it. Agar may be similar to Powell in terms of the point in the young team's life cycle that he's in charge but he's a much more experienced and smarter coach than Powell was in his time at Leeds.

Re: Rich Agar : Mon Aug 30, 2021 6:56 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Changing coach is probably more of a risk than leaving it. Agar may be similar to Powell in terms of the point in the young team's life cycle that he's in charge but he's a much more experienced and smarter coach than Powell was in his time at Leeds.

Yet Powell had the stones to ditch the deadwood & give our best Youngsters the shirts thry deserved ,he even cut 2 of his mates in Sheridan & Hay.
We played a much better brand of RL under Powell as well.
If we want to be back amongst the GF big hitters we need better than Agar simple as that.

Re: Rich Agar : Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:15 am  

Was it Powell or more likely Hetherington who made that call. I'm sure it was informed by the coach but Powell would definitely have leaned heavily on his mentor throughout that spell as GH was a vastly more experienced top flight head coach.

Certainly it was Hetherington who knew a change needed to be made as head coach after 2003, a much more personal and tricky decision than getting rid of ageing players Powell had only known a relatively brief time.

Re: Rich Agar : Mon Aug 30, 2021 7:32 am  

The Ghost of '99 wrote:

Was it Powell or more likely Hetherington who made that call. I'm sure it was informed by the coach but Powell would definitely have leaned heavily on his mentor throughout that spell as GH was a vastly more experienced top flight head coach.

Certainly it was Hetherington who knew a change needed to be made as head coach after 2003, a much more personal and tricky decision than getting rid of ageing players Powell had only known a relatively brief time.

Yeah good point. Hetherington is a canny coach and club manager. Think we’ll go with Agar having another year with a top squad now. And appraisal en of that year......
Unless fans turn on Agar sooner which can always happen these sad days.....!

Re: Rich Agar : Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:28 am  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Yet Powell had the stones to ditch the deadwood & give our best Youngsters the shirts thry deserved ,he even cut 2 of his mates in Sheridan & Hay.
We played a much better brand of RL under Powell as well.
If we want to be back amongst the GF big hitters we need better than Agar simple as that.

As I recall it Powell decided to play safe and drop Danny Mags for the Cup Final against Bradford despite his match winning heroics in the semi against Saints. Agar, on the other hand, definitely went for youth when picking Alex Sutcliffe for last years final. He also continues to give Gannon, O'Connor, Broadbent and any others who prove they are up to it a fair crack.

Re: Rich Agar : Mon Aug 30, 2021 8:37 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

As I recall it Powell decided to play safe and drop Danny Mags for the Cup Final against Bradford despite his match winning heroics in the semi against Saints. Agar, on the other hand, definitely went for youth when picking Alex Sutcliffe for last years final. He also continues to give Gannon, O'Connor, Broadbent and any others who prove they are up to it a fair crack.

It was a tough call between having Burrow or McGuire on the bench to be fair to Powell and if Rob hadn't been knocked out pretty soon after coming on it may have been the correct tactical call. Given Danny had got us there though leaving him out was unfair from that perspective but there was no room for sentiment in that trophyless era.

I sometimes wonder what would have happened to us had the experiences of 2003 not happened, they were life lessons for those players be it the ability to win under pressure like in the semi, learning harsh tactical things like Sinfield not going for the 2 at Cardiff, losing all five games vs Bradford and then tumbling out of the play offs. It was a crucial year I think. That semi vs Saints also gave the players the lived knowledge of not being afraid of a team whose reputation as masters of knock out football went before them.