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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:36 am  
Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

The most feckwitted man on RLFans can't do what he likes then.


You've lost me now Keith, are you speaking of yourself again?
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:40 am  
SOME OF THE ONE EYED COMMENTS ON HERE SUPPORTING BAILEY ARE HILARIOUS :lol:

HE PUSHED A REFEREE. THERES ABSOLUTELY NO EXCUSE FOR HIS ACTIONS :READING:

RESPECT FOR THE OFFICALS IS PARAMOUNT, YOU CANT GO SHOVING THEM :PIMP:
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:26 am  
My take on the whole situation is this:



He pushed a ref and got banned.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 11:49 am  
Fair enough, except on Warrington. If the offence warrants 3 games then silverwood should have sent him off there and then (although I guess, given his track record, that he may have actually missed it). Had he done so, Wire might well have won.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:02 pm  
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:15 pm  
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3407

Incident considered Deliberate physical contact with a match official in 36th minute


Decision On Charge
Player plea Guilty
Summary of CM's submissions on the Charge / evidence The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 36th minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion you made deliberate physical contact with the referee. The Panel believed that this behaviour was serious misconduct, unnecessary and against the spirit of the game. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade C offence (Deliberate physical contact with a match official). If found to have committed the offence, again in accordance with the On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the normal suspension range for such offence is from 2 match suspension to a 3 match suspension. In addition the Tribunal has the power to impose such fine as it considers reasonable.

Summary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence Player admitts guilt.
Decision Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision

Decision On Sanction (where found to have committed Misconduct)
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction No further submissions.
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction Mr McDermott believes Mr Bailey is guilty of the offence. Mr McDermott does feel that the match official’s postioning was poor, however Mr Bailey should have realised that the match official was not a decoy runner. In addition he should have taken a more appropriate course of action in attempting to move around him.

Aggravating Factors
Mitigating Factors Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored. The panel will not tolerate any aggression showed towards a match official. The panel have taken into account the plea of guilt but cannot overlook the seriousness of this incident. It is therefore the opinion of the committee that a 3 match suspension and a £300 fine is in order.
Suspension 3 matches
Fine £300
Warning
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3407

Incident considered Deliberate physical contact with a match official in 36th minute


Decision On Charge
Player plea Guilty
Summary of CM's submissions on the Charge / evidence The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 36th minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion you made deliberate physical contact with the referee. The Panel believed that this behaviour was serious misconduct, unnecessary and against the spirit of the game. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade C offence (Deliberate physical contact with a match official). If found to have committed the offence, again in accordance with the On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the normal suspension range for such offence is from 2 match suspension to a 3 match suspension. In addition the Tribunal has the power to impose such fine as it considers reasonable.

Summary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence Player admitts guilt.
Decision Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision

Decision On Sanction (where found to have committed Misconduct)
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction No further submissions.
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction Mr McDermott believes Mr Bailey is guilty of the offence. Mr McDermott does feel that the match official’s postioning was poor, however Mr Bailey should have realised that the match official was not a decoy runner. In addition he should have taken a more appropriate course of action in attempting to move around him.

Aggravating Factors
Mitigating Factors Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored. The panel will not tolerate any aggression showed towards a match official. The panel have taken into account the plea of guilt but cannot overlook the seriousness of this incident. It is therefore the opinion of the committee that a 3 match suspension and a £300 fine is in order.
Suspension 3 matches
Fine £300
Warning
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:26 pm  
The important message from the RFL is not aimed at superleague at all but further down the leagues and to all of the match officials who do the job unpaid and often unthanked, its good that they are seen to be backing up a referee.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:38 pm  
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The important message from the RFL is not aimed at superleague at all but further down the leagues and to all of the match officials who do the job unpaid and often unthanked, its good that they are seen to be backing up a referee.

Agreed.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:41 pm  
Juan Cornetto wrote:
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3407

Incident considered Deliberate physical contact with a match official in 36th minute


Decision On Charge
Player plea Guilty
Summary of CM's submissions on the Charge / evidence The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 36th minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion you made deliberate physical contact with the referee. The Panel believed that this behaviour was serious misconduct, unnecessary and against the spirit of the game. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade C offence (Deliberate physical contact with a match official). If found to have committed the offence, again in accordance with the On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the normal suspension range for such offence is from 2 match suspension to a 3 match suspension. In addition the Tribunal has the power to impose such fine as it considers reasonable.

Summary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence Player admitts guilt.
Decision Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision

Decision On Sanction (where found to have committed Misconduct)
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction No further submissions.
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction Mr McDermott believes Mr Bailey is guilty of the offence. Mr McDermott does feel that the match official’s postioning was poor, however Mr Bailey should have realised that the match official was not a decoy runner. In addition he should have taken a more appropriate course of action in attempting to move around him.

Aggravating Factors
Mitigating Factors Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored. The panel will not tolerate any aggression showed towards a match official. The panel have taken into account the plea of guilt but cannot overlook the seriousness of this incident. It is therefore the opinion of the committee that a 3 match suspension and a £300 fine is in order.
Suspension 3 matches
Fine £300
Warning


With all that said you might have thought a 2 match ban for a guilty plea would have been more forthcoming.
Then again the RFL have tried many times to get Bailey banned and failed.
Juan Cornetto wrote:
http://www.therfl.co.uk/disciplinary/item?3407

Incident considered Deliberate physical contact with a match official in 36th minute


Decision On Charge
Player plea Guilty
Summary of CM's submissions on the Charge / evidence The Panel reviewed an incident which occurred in approximately the 36th minute of the Match. In the Panel’s opinion you made deliberate physical contact with the referee. The Panel believed that this behaviour was serious misconduct, unnecessary and against the spirit of the game. In accordance with the RFL’s On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the Panel consider that such offence is a Grade C offence (Deliberate physical contact with a match official). If found to have committed the offence, again in accordance with the On Field Sentencing Guidelines, the normal suspension range for such offence is from 2 match suspension to a 3 match suspension. In addition the Tribunal has the power to impose such fine as it considers reasonable.

Summary of Player's submissions on the Charge / evidence Player admitts guilt.
Decision Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision

Decision On Sanction (where found to have committed Misconduct)
Summary of CM's submissions on the appropriate sanction No further submissions.
Summary of Player's submissions on the appropriate sanction Mr McDermott believes Mr Bailey is guilty of the offence. Mr McDermott does feel that the match official’s postioning was poor, however Mr Bailey should have realised that the match official was not a decoy runner. In addition he should have taken a more appropriate course of action in attempting to move around him.

Aggravating Factors
Mitigating Factors Guilty plea.
Reasons for Decision The panel believe that Mr Bailey should have dealt with the situation in a different way. There was a deliberate push on the referee and continued petulance showed towards the referee after the try was scored. The panel will not tolerate any aggression showed towards a match official. The panel have taken into account the plea of guilt but cannot overlook the seriousness of this incident. It is therefore the opinion of the committee that a 3 match suspension and a £300 fine is in order.
Suspension 3 matches
Fine £300
Warning


With all that said you might have thought a 2 match ban for a guilty plea would have been more forthcoming.
Then again the RFL have tried many times to get Bailey banned and failed.
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Re: Bailey & Webb Charged : Wed Mar 14, 2012 12:46 pm  
I have no problem with him being banned for the contact on the ref, but it needs to be in proportion to other incidents from this season, and three games is way OTT.

Is it really worth a longer ban than for what Tommy Lee received for almost decapitating Lee Briers? :?
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