Re: Jon Wilkin : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:10 pm  

Oledzki is a workhorse prop. He is not and never will be the sort of prop who opposition fear. Not because he doesn't get aggro, but he just doesn't/can't run or hit with the kind of sheer power that others do. If the rest of our rotation was full of mongrel he'd be the perfect balance. Sadly the rest are complete powder puffs, and Oledzki looks worse than he is a lot of the time.

If you want to fix this team up though then size and aggression up front are what's needed. We have zero platform for Croft or the backs, and everyone looks awful. Martin is our best forward, but as an OS player he may need to be sacrificed to get us some oomph. But really the rest of the forwards are almost laughably bad as a unit. The only way that could change is if a new coach comes in and tries to get them to tear in. I don't think we have many that could change, maybe Holroyd?

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:20 pm  

Our pack gets bullied every week and continually gives up cheap yardage when defending. Croft needs to play behind a dominant pack to get the best out of him if we can see this then surely Blease will do too.

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:37 pm  

I was thinking just after half time we should have pushed Smith up to prop, O’Connor to 13 and brought Johnson on.

Goudemand doesn’t do it for me at prop. He’s a bench back row who can emergency cover prop if needed.

Smith is slowing us down too much, he is struggling for form. Sangare gets bagged but he gets passed the ball with 2 opposition forwards already on him, he has no chance.

Honestly have doubts over all Smith’s signings. I still like McDonnell but he needs to be our smallest forward. The conditions played into Hull’s hsnds today as it exposed our poor skill and lack of physicality.

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:37 pm  

Cherry_Warrior wrote:

That will be Shaun Wane then? You should have gone for him before Smith. I think he was quite a poular choice on here if i remember rightly. I don't want him to leave Wigan but i would be fascinated to see what he could do at a big club in decline like Leeds or a Hull. His rugby isn't always pretty but he always gets every last drop of effort from his players. He is renowned for utilising the academy and promoting from within too. It's everything clubs like Leeds, Wigan and Saints are built on. You need somebody who gets the culture of being in charge of one of these sides. The imposters of these roles never succeed.

I’d like Wane if he’s up for the job

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:41 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I was thinking just after half time we should have pushed Smith up to prop, O’Connor to 13 and brought Johnson on.

Goudemand doesn’t do it for me at prop. He’s a bench back row who can emergency cover prop if needed.

Smith is slowing us down too much, he is struggling for form. Sangare gets bagged but he gets passed the ball with 2 opposition forwards already on him, he has no chance.

Honestly have doubts over all Smith’s signings. I still like McDonnell but he needs to be our smallest forward. The conditions played into Hull’s hsnds today as it exposed our poor skill and lack of physicality.

Jim we just look poorly coached. Smith isn’t getting a tune from any players. That squad isn’t brilliant, a long way from it but it’s much better than what we’re seeing.

Re: Jon Wilkin : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:47 pm  

Agree with a lot Jon said. Blease will be taking note no doubt

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:48 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

Jim we just look poorly coached. Smith isn’t getting a tune from any players. That squad isn’t brilliant, a long way from it but it’s much better than what we’re seeing.

There’s quite a lot of talent and skill in the squad it’s just not manifesting itself!

They’re nowhere near as bad as that shitshow they put out today

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 10:54 pm  

christopher wrote:

There’s quite a lot of talent and skill in the squad it’s just not manifesting itself!

They’re nowhere near as bad as that shitshow they put out today

Agree Chris

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sat Jun 15, 2024 11:05 pm  

Trebor1 wrote:

Agree Chris

Didn't go today and haven't watched the game yet. Doubt I will as the result says it all. The writings been on the wall for weeks if not months. At this point Rohan’s like a boxer who's taking a sustained beating. He won't quit, but that doesn't make it right. Somebody needs to step in for his own (and the clubs) good this weekend. At least that way the Leigh game can be the beginning of something new.

Re: Round 13 | Hull FC (A) : Sun Jun 16, 2024 1:49 am  

The fact is that after every break, every chance to 'reset' or work on things - which we are told by Smith is happening - we come back worse. Three of our worst performances have come off two week breaks - Hudds, Sts and now Hull. To go back to the very first post on this thread, what the heck are they doing with all this time off??