Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:49 pm  

Zoo Zoo Boom wrote:

Isn't that what the forwards are for - the clue is in the name. Otherwise what are they there for - just tackling? Their job is to get the teams moving forwards the wingers and centres are there to defend out wide but more importantly contribute to the attacking structure of the team. Against London you had props with < 6 carries in a game.

So with the same theory, the backs are their to move the team back?

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 1:52 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

They have been trying all year mate and largely getting smashed. Either we need different players who can do that kind of job, or we need to change approach - that is my point. Just "running harder" isn't going to change anything is it?

In previous seasons, the Saints backline literally just ran onto the ball at speed, got over the gain line, hit their front, quick ptb and repeat.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 2:23 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

That's a very over-simplified version of what I meant isn't it? Do you think our current method has been working all season? What would be your suggestion to improve our yardage?

sign Neme and Ryan , they will bring the ball out

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:37 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote:

In previous seasons, the Saints backline literally just ran onto the ball at speed, got over the gain line, hit their front, quick ptb and repeat.

Yes with the likes of Percival and Makinson who are great at that. You can't copy the method with players who don't hit the line like they do.

For what it's worth, Hall will be more effectively than Fus with these carries next season I think, and Handley is OK sometimes. Our centres are rubbish at it and Miller is more of a stepper. Added to the fact we have relatively light back rowers and we get exactly what we see - a consistent failure to establish any momentum up field and a poor platform for the halves to play off.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 3:41 pm  

The 2 wingers at Wigan and Catalan don`t do bad either at bringing the ball out of their own half.
With Fusi`s size you would think he would do the same.
Too powder puff for me.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:02 pm  

Handley is very good at bringing the ball out from our line. He regularly makes decent post contact metres and if given the space can use his speed to make ground. Fusi is poor, especially for his size. He never breaks a tackle and doesn't have the pace to go around anyone. Its a shame Lumb got injured, he may have been an improvement.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:04 pm  

Alfie edgel is actually pretty good at this especially for his size, runs fearlessly

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 4:50 pm  

Still think we looked pretty good in patches going forward, all is not lost but… I hope between Blease and BA they can find some solutions to the squad.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:06 pm  

I think Hall will help out with that. Strong runner and should play more often too.

Re: Round 17| Warrington Away : Fri Jul 12, 2024 5:19 pm  

leedsbarmyarmy wrote:

The backs need to run with aggression and not from a standing start. Theres only really Handley and potentialy Miller, that do that at the moment from the backs. Handleys also good at finding his front and getting up quickly. Fus can make the yards but takes an age to get off the floor.

The last bit I agree with the rest is poppycock.