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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:36 am  
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All the Saints fans seem to have missed that. Graham was hiding in the middle of the pitch. Why was he not lining up opposite the tap? If I wasnted to have a pop at the guy taking the hit up that's where I would have been - not near the centre spot.


Don't let facts get in the way of a good story, Saints fans clearly arent ;)
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 10:06 am  
My overview:

My unwritten law for St Helens is if they hold a full two score lead, you won't win the game. That was the case at half time. We never recovered. Why? Poor one on one defense, simple. Saints all credit to them, the scoreboard doesn't lie, they were the best team on the night. They passed along the Leeds defensive line as much as they could, to get them one on one. So far this season Leeds have loved going in with two's and threes, drivng players back, getting them on their back and that results in a slow PTB with our defensive line easily back. This wasn't the case last night, and Saints strung some neat attacking play together and defended well at crucial times. Brain fart penaltlies didn't help Leeds, but we were outplayed on that day. But Saints haven't got revenge for the last two Grand Finals, they will only get retribution at Old Trafford not in an early doors Two Pointer. Leeds on the other hand can look forward a fortnight to the CC to rectify last years semi collapse.

Individually:

Brent Webb - still getting back into the grove. He looked shattered at the end.
Lee Smith - nice runs from centre, will do well there. But failed to get any quality ball to Donald down the right.
Scott Donald - Excellent in defense. Had another interesting dual with a youngster (Wheeler).
Keith Senior - up and down. Strong running but sloppy at times.
Rob Burrow - unlucky knock again. Poor one on one tackle in the second half which lead to a try.
Kevin Sinfield - tried his best. Quality offload form a 4 man tackle, which lead to our first score. His goalkicking was perfect. And he knew the points difference value of that last conversion, if he missed it Saints would have gone top. I know it doesn't mean a great deal (over a full season) but we're top and his commitment to the cause shows how much he wants to stay there.
Jamie Jones-Buchanan - Stupid. His holding down penalty, then his chelping penalty, conceeded field position which gave Saints the 'roll on' to score two late trys in the first half. He tackled well, but attacking wise offered nothing. Was well contained. With Ali out, we needed him at his strongest, sharpest best. He wasn't.
Matt Diskin - lost the hooking battle with the 'Welsh' tramp.
Kylie Leuluai - Superb first stint. Quiet there after.
Jamie Peacock - Not at the races. Daft penalty.
Luke Burgess - Great second half, inspired by Bailey. Ran with purpose. Good to see his 2009 season has finally started.

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Ryan Bailey - How good is this guy? He rattles cages like no other in Super League. His huge, legal, shoulder charge laid the ineffective Maurie out. The fan fare afterwards was pathetic. He went in with the shoulder, and the Saints players who cried at that - get a grip. After the hit, Bailey stood straight up and stood his ground. Notice how no Saints player went toe-to-toe with him, just pudding Graham frothing at the mouth, 10m away. And when Graham did put him down, he was third man in when Bailey was static, yeah you showed him. :roll: And people say Bailey just does third man in. He was also unlucky when he drove himself into the un-tackled Saints player. I think the penalty was for him being too rough. Bless. He went down with his shoulder and massive body weight. I just get the feeling if it was JP that shoulder charged Maurie, for the same result, nothing would have been said. Bailey's hated by opposition players and fans. And I adore his gritty style, and I have a striong feeling that he loves it too. His huge hit dragged us back in the game, Saints were rattled and we edged our way back into it, thanks to Ryan Bailey. More of the same please Ryan. :CLAP:
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:06 am  
Dave Heron's Moustache wrote:
All the Saints fans seem to have missed that. Graham was hiding in the middle of the pitch. Why was he not lining up opposite the tap? If I wasnted to have a pop at the guy taking the hit up that's where I would have been - not near the centre spot.


And Leeds fans are missing that Bailey's laughable crab towards Graham ended with Graham driving him back 10 metres :lol:
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:12 am  
Jamie Jones-Buchanan - Stupid. His holding down penalty, then his chelping penalty, conceeded field position which gave Saints the 'roll on' to score two late trys in the first half. He tackled well, but attacking wise offered nothing. Was well contained. With Ali out, we needed him at his strongest, sharpest best. He wasn't.
Matt Diskin - lost the hooking battle with the 'Welsh' tramp.

Agreed.........what is it with JJB?
Penalties nowadays are often followed by tries............someone needs to have a word.
Diskin......is he really Leeds quality?
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 11:17 am  
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Agreed.........what is it with JJB?
Penalties nowadays are often followed by tries............someone needs to have a word.
Diskin......is he really Leeds quality?


With JJB he seems to be liable for at least a silly penalty per game. I thought attacking wise last night he kept in check.

With Diskin, I think he is quality. Not his best game last night, but how many can say that it was? Looking at the start to the season Diskin has been on excellent form, he wants his number 9 shirt back. Leeds' premier hooker, on this seasons form, games played and commitment to the cause.
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:17 pm  
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Graham was hiding in the middle of the pitch.

Graham doesn't hide. You likely won't have seen our final game of last season against Wigan but if you did see it then you know that Graham doesn't hide. I'm not sure he wants to be binned this early in the season either though (given that the fight(s) had nothing to do with him).

I didn't know Gilmour could punch like that. Good job Wilkin jumped in to protect Smith! Smith would have been pulp otherwise!
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:20 pm  
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Graham doesn't hide. You likely won't have seen our final game of last season against Wigan


We saw your last game of last season and it wasnt against Wigan.

Oh, and he did hide.


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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:23 pm  
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We saw your last game of last season and it wasnt against Wigan.

:roll:

Very witty. Except the GF comes after the season has ended. But no matter. You have your fun. (He didn't hide then either. He scored the first try)
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 3:26 pm  
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Very witty. Except the GF comes after the season has ended.


Really? Pardon me while I :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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(He didn't hide then either. He scored the first try)


Oh dear. You realy don't have a clue.
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: Sat Mar 21, 2009 4:00 pm  
As a Wire fan,I enjoyed last nights game,we dont see stuff like that at HJ,but reckon Mcclellan dropped 1 hell of a ballack,by taking Bailey off when he did,Saints were well and truely rattled by his antics and the game was there for Leeds taking.
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