Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Mon Dec 26, 2016 8:54 pm  

realistically its only when not if the change is made.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:15 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

realistically its only when not if the change is made.

Agreed, though not as a knee jerk reaction, or because he is 'a crap coach'.

Coaching, and sport in general is circular, and I always remember after Bluey leaving comments made basically saying he'd outlived his shelf life. It didn't mean he wasn't a good coach, or take away from what he had achieved with us, it was just time for a new voice.

I think the same will eventually be said of Mac, he was perfect for us for a spell, and his record attests to this and the fact that he can without a doubt be a good coach. But very few stay on for as long as him, even after success like he has enjoyed.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Mon Dec 26, 2016 9:22 pm  

Barrie's Glass Eye wrote:

Agreed, though not as a knee jerk reaction, or because he is 'a crap coach'.

Coaching, and sport in general is circular, and I always remember after Bluey leaving comments made basically saying he'd outlived his shelf life. It didn't mean he wasn't a good coach, or take away from what he had achieved with us, it was just time for a new voice.

I think the same will eventually be said of Mac, he was perfect for us for a spell, and his record attests to this and the fact that he can without a doubt be a good coach. But very few stay on for as long as him, even after success like he has enjoyed.

a good and fair post, I would agree with this yes

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 1:04 am  

Barrie's Glass Eye wrote:

Agreed, though not as a knee jerk reaction, or because he is 'a crap coach'.

Coaching, and sport in general is circular, and I always remember after Bluey leaving comments made basically saying he'd outlived his shelf life. It didn't mean he wasn't a good coach, or take away from what he had achieved with us, it was just time for a new voice.

I think the same will eventually be said of Mac, he was perfect for us for a spell, and his record attests to this and the fact that he can without a doubt be a good coach. But very few stay on for as long as him, even after success like he has enjoyed.

good post.sums my feelings up and i would hazard a guess most people on here.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 3:31 am  

We needed to sign a decent hooker and half back to have any chance of a trophy plus a new coach , we have gambled on a hooker {left with little option) the other two we have ignored and it is blatantly obvious that leaves us in a mess .

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 6:07 am  

Is there any evidence from the club that McD is under any pressure whatsoever?

He certainly isnt going to be under any pressure for losing a friendly more than a month before season starts.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:54 am  

Will you ever hear from the club the coach is under threat - seldom

To suggest fans have paid £18 for an opposed training session cannot have gone down well with GH!!

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 7:59 am  

I'm not the biggest McDermott fan in the world, and personally for me he has run his race at leeds and it's time for a change.
I don't really get all the stick he is getting over the Boxing Day press conference. What do you all expect him to say. It is a completely meaningless fixture it's a pre season pre season fixture, it is an opposed training session for the team. Yes people paid near 20 quid but you all knew what the fixture was before going

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:32 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Will you ever hear from the club the coach is under threat - seldom

To suggest fans have paid £18 for an opposed training session cannot have gone down well with GH!!

Yes you will hear rumblings that the coach is under pressure but i never get that impression with McD. All i ever seem to get is that he is trusted by GH. I never get the impression he is under any threat at all despite the fans unhappiness at him.

And as for GH being unhappy at McD suggesting the fans paid £18 for a training session i would think it would fill GH with glee. He will still be sat at Headingley now double checking every single copper coin that he has managed to get out of the fans.

I never go to the Boxing Day game because i simply dont agree with it. The players should be allowed Xmas with their families instead of preparing for a game. Everyone i have spoken to seem to be moaning that the players didnt look to even know each and looked clueless but what was they expecting? This time of year isnt about team structure and ball work its about weight training and fitness work.

Re: Boxing Day | Leeds Rhinos v Wakefield Trinity. : Tue Dec 27, 2016 8:36 am  

Perhaps if the team he is coaching didn't put in such abject performances his press conferences might be less stressful and his responses more appropriate.