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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:16 pm  
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I'd rather our defenders focused on stopping tries rather than scoring them when they other team have the ball. Handley is a prime culprit, it came off this time, but most of the time it doesn't, he's caught in no mans land and their winger scores a walk in.


He did stop them scoring ;-)
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:20 pm  
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He did stop them scoring ;-)


Yes, fortunately you’re right this time. :lol:
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:42 pm  
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Yes, fortunately you’re right this time. :lol:


Ha, we are pioneering a new defensive move
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:52 pm  
People seem to be bit stuck on the Handley positioning, as coming up regularly now. Rohan clearly doesn’t and probably more pleased about Ash’s many qualities, as I am.
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 1:55 pm  
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People seem to be bit stuck on the Handley positioning, as coming up regularly now. Rohan clearly doesn’t and probably more pleased about Ash’s many qualities, as I am.
Given how many points are being conceded by it I think it's spectacularly unlikely Smith "clearly doesn't" see this aspect of Handley's play as an issue. But he's also not likely to talk about it in press conferences, not least because our clueless media never bring this sort of thing up.
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:38 pm  
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Given how many points are being conceded by it I think it's spectacularly unlikely Smith "clearly doesn't" see this aspect of Handley's play as an issue. But he's also not likely to talk about it in press conferences, not least because our clueless media never bring this sort of thing up.


Have you got the stats on points scored down that side?
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:49 pm  
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Given how many points are being conceded by it I think it's spectacularly unlikely Smith "clearly doesn't" see this aspect of Handley's play as an issue. But he's also not likely to talk about it in press conferences, not least because our clueless media never bring this sort of thing up.

I suspect he hasn’t been told it’s a problem, as he defends in the same way every week, and gets his share of intercepts which completely change games……
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 2:55 pm  
It’s not as black and white as people are making out.

Do we want to continue to see Ash pull off these intercepts and take that gamble when it’s on…yes. Do we also want to see Ash have more faith in his inside man, bite in less and as such concede less, but also be in less positions where the intercept is his only chance of stopping a try…also yes.

The good with Ash far outweighs the bad but I would be absolutely amazed if it’s something Rohan is not trying to tighten up.
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:11 pm  
[quote="Barrie’s Glass Eye"]It’s not as black and white as people are making out.

Do we want to continue to see Ash pull off these intercepts and take that gamble when it’s on…yes. Do we also want to see Ash have more faith in his inside man, bite in less and as such concede less, but also be in less positions where the intercept is his only chance of stopping a try…also yes.

The good with Ash far outweighs the bad but I would be absolutely amazed if it’s something Rohan is not trying to tighten up.[/quote
The problem is, if you start making an issue out of something that’s not really a major problem, then the player can stop trying things, play more cautiously, and you can actually detract from the positives in their game. Handley is full of confidence at the minute, and backs his ability. I’d just be reinforcing that really…..
But who knows what coach is saying…..
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Re: RD 22 | Salford Red Devils (H) : Mon Aug 08, 2022 3:53 pm  
But you can flip that as well Shabino, as soon as you stop working on flaws as a coach then you get complacent players.
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