Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:04 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

I see only inconsistency in Martin if im honest. I certainly dont see anywhere near the player others seem to do. I certainly dont see any improvement in the team at all. This team is so short of pace its unbelievable.

As ive said previously I think Gale is an important but only if he stays fit, which given he is coming off 2 major injuries is a big risk.

Do you honestly see improvement?

Improvement from when?

If it’s from when Martin joined then yes, it has improved a lot.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:17 pm  

christopher wrote:

Improvement from when?

If it’s from when Martin joined then yes, it has improved a lot.

Improved a lot???? Jesus, the last game we lost 30-4 at home! What the hell are you talking about? Stop trying to paint a rosy picture when its clearly nonsense.

Yes we are in transition and yes it will take time but for God sake we are not in a good place right now.

We should be a much better team than we are.

Head Sand In springs to mind.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:24 pm  

christopher wrote:

So a load of opinion based stuff with no access to why those decisions were made

Crosby wasn’t injured when he signed, Ferres was according to players a very well respected player so not sure why you've got an issue with him captaining a few games (ferres has gone by the way) Jordan thompson was nothing but a short term stop gap signing.

Donaldson has been a good call, you obviously disagree but its far from a sign that Sinfield is out of his depth.

Furner was a mistake which he rectified.


Look if I’m honest its a pointless debate and we’ll never agree be ause were looking at it from different angles, Sinfield came back to a club that was in a right state less than 2 years ago, said it would take a good few years to put right and I believe him. He will make some mistakes along the way as that’s the nature of sport

Crosby joined with a knee injury mate hence him going into those bottom eights with it strapped & by his own admission which resulted in surgery.
Ferres was & always was sh#@ in a Leeds shirt ive seen more Csptain credentials in John the programme seller ( No disrespect John)
Also re-the other stuff highlighted why would we need the reasons for those calls when we know they were poor calls?
One thing Sinfield does know & has always said is the standsrd required to play for this Club then he's signed sh#te that isnt a "sporting misake" its poor judgement.
If you've got a Salary Cap do you waste it on 2 or 3 nobodies/average at best or back your Acadamy & wait for the right quality?
Do you think GH & since he arrived Sinfield have done a good job & signed the right calibre of players we require?
We may look at it from different angles but at the same time how do you get the opinion We are better than performances & results show or that Agar & co are better than i & others think they are.
Of corse we are 1 game into a new season but the same errors are there the rudderless attack the holes in the defence & going with 1 34yr old prop on the bench against the 2nd best pack in the League.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:30 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

Improved a lot???? Jesus, the last game we lost 30-4 at home! What the hell are you talking about? Stop trying to paint a rosy picture when its clearly nonsense.

Yes we are in transition and yes it will take time but for God sake we are not in a good place right now.

We should be a much better team than we are.

Head Sand In springs to mind.

So were back to judging it on one game.

I’m not trying to paint it as a rosy picture I’m trying to look at it from where we are now to where we were or where we need to be but I think we will get there.

And again with the head in sand comments, just because I don’t think everything about the club is doing is wrong as you do doesn’t mean I have my head in the sand.

We aren’t going to agree, you don’t have a good word to say about the club it’s management or players, which is of course your right, doesn’t mean I have to agree.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:34 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

Crosby joined with a knee injury mate hence him going into those bottom eights with it strapped & by his own admission which resulted in surgery.
Ferres was & always was sh#@ in a Leeds shirt ive seen more Csptain credentials in John the programme seller ( No disrespect John)
Also re-the other stuff highlighted why would we need the reasons for those calls when we know they were poor calls?
One thing Sinfield does know & has always said is the standsrd required to play for this Club then he's signed sh#te that isnt a "sporting misake" its poor judgement.
If you've got a Salary Cap do you waste it on 2 or 3 nobodies/average at best or back your Acadamy & wait for the right quality?
Do you think GH & since he arrived Sinfield have done a good job & signed the right calibre of players we require?
We may look at it from different angles but at the same time how do you get the opinion We are better than performances & results show or that Agar & co are better than i & others think they are.
Of corse we are 1 game into a new season but the same errors are there the rudderless attack the holes in the defence & going with 1 34yr old prop on the bench against the 2nd best pack in the League.

I didn’t say we are better than the performancees and results show.

I said we are better than before Martin joined.

Do I think we have signed the right calibre of player since Sinfield joined, not 100% no, do I think we have a better squad than when he joined, yes, absolutely.


I think im going to leave it here as it’s an utterly pointless debate.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:44 pm  

christopher wrote:

I didn’t say we are better than the performancees and results show.

I said we are better than before Martin joined.

Do I think we have signed the right calibre of player since Sinfield joined, not 100% no, do I think we have a better squad than when he joined, yes, absolutely.


I think im going to leave it here as it’s an utterly pointless debate.

Ok lets hope we have a better season than last year & get better signings that we require.
Fwiw id love Agar & co to prove me wrong & do think we have better players than last year but we still need a fair few more & less journeymen.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:45 pm  

Marty Grrrrrrrrrr! wrote:

I see only inconsistency in Martin if im honest. I certainly dont see anywhere near the player others seem to do. I certainly dont see any improvement in the team at all. This team is so short of pace its unbelievable.

As ive said previously I think Gale is an important but only if he stays fit, which given he is coming off 2 major injuries is a big risk.

Do you honestly see improvement?

I see improvement in the squad, but that’s struggling to translate into the pitch. It’s still early with the new players in the squad and I’m confident they will gel and improve.

I’m massively reserving judgement on the coaching set up. Someone posted that they think we are saving money whilst paying off Furner, which I’m tempted to believe. Coaches are not salary capped so there’s no excuse for not getting the best you possibly can. I don’t think we’re doing that, something doesn’t add up there IMO.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 5:52 pm  

batleyrhino wrote:

I see improvement in the squad, but that’s struggling to translate into the pitch. It’s still early with the new players in the squad and I’m confident they will gel and improve.

I’m massively reserving judgement on the coaching set up. Someone posted that they think we are saving money whilst paying off Furner, which I’m tempted to believe. Coaches are not salary capped so there’s no excuse for not getting the best you possibly can. I don’t think we’re doing that, something doesn’t add up there IMO.

Fwiw I don’t think Sinfield sees Agar as long term coach hence the 1 year deal, they only thing that would change that would be if he had a very successful year, and I would love for that to happen.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:00 pm  

Much as I doubt he will, but so do I.

I get that Sinfield doesn’t think Agar is the long term answer, but I do think we could have moved more quickly to secure a coach who would be long term. Griffin has been mentioned and would have been a massive upgrade on Agar.

The cancellation of today’s game doesn’t really help us in some regards, it leaves us with a game in hand but short of two potential points meaning we pretty much must win the HKR game or we start slipping behind again for the third season in a row.

Re: RD 2 | Huddersfield Giants (A) : Sun Feb 09, 2020 6:02 pm  

christopher wrote:

Fwiw I don’t think Sinfield sees Agar as long term coach hence the 1 year deal, they only thing that would change that would be if he had a very successful year, and I would love for that to happen.

It’s not just a one year deal, it’s a rolling one year deal, keeps been a year tomorrow, and the day after, and the.....

But your right he isn’t the long term, just the stand in. Doesn’t make it right though.