: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:42 pm  

G1 wrote:

My head is going to explode.

I mustn't be nasty to the previous two posters but come on. really. FFS.

Bad management.

Why?

Do you know what money Wasps have offered Smith? Do you know how much he has demanded to stay?

I'd imagine it would be bad management by GH to match Wasps offer.

So if Smith is going to leave anyway, why not release him early and get a transfer fee.

Let's face it, now Webb is fit, he's going back to the wing fast and we've got Donald and Hall

Bad management? Idiots!

Look at things simple Gareth, I agree with you.

But put the simple things to one side for a moment. In October after a MOM winning GF performance, GH announced that Smith would be going nowhere and that a new contract would be on the table.

That did not happen, and has still not happend. In that time now Wasps have come in. Had we sorted the issue out in October we would probably (although not certainly) not be facing this now. That could be regarded as lapse management, or at the very least pure arrogance.

Again that said though, it would be stupid for GH to match what the probably offer is from Wasps. Nobody should be paid silly money, regardless of how good or what their potential is.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:43 pm  

Mr Scruff wrote:

Something's not right.

You've got an ageing centre who's coming to the end of his career (Senior) and two other centres who are far from being top drawer.

Then you've got a young British utility back who can play very well in all the back positions who decides to leave for rugby union?

If true it stinks of bad management, wrong priorities and bad planning from Mr. Hetherington.

Yeah, chuck a huge wedge of the salary cap at a player who might or might not be able to perform in your position of biggest need. That's the way forward.

Yours

Wigan Warriors

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:46 pm  

DISA wrote:

That did not happen, and has still not happend. In that time now Wasps have come in. Had we sorted the issue out in October we would probably (although not certainly) not be facing this now. That could be regarded as lapse management, or at the very least pure arrogance.

How do you know this?

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 1:55 pm  

G1 wrote:

How do you know this?

What? How do I know the contract was not offered?

If so, the same reason I posted on here previously about the deadline he has put on it. The same reason I knew about Scrutons situation last year, and offer. Smiths best mate and good friend of Scruton sits behind me in the Carnegie Stand.

Of course he could be bullpooper, but I am pretty sure he aint. Mainly because Smith sat with him on his other seat last year at one of the games.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:00 pm  

DISA wrote:

What? How do I know the contract was not offered?

If so, the same reason I posted on here previously about the deadline he has put on it. The same reason I knew about Scrutons situation last year, and offer. Smiths best mate and good friend of Scruton sits behind me in the Carnegie Stand.

Of course he could be bullpooper, but I am pretty sure he aint. Mainly because Smith sat with him on his other seat last year at one of the games.

So you are saying that Leeds have not offered Smith a new contract on the say so of some bloke who sits behind you?

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:02 pm  

DISA wrote:

What? How do I know the contract was not offered?

If so, the same reason I posted on here previously about the deadline he has put on it. The same reason I knew about Scrutons situation last year, and offer. Smiths best mate and good friend of Scruton sits behind me in the Carnegie Stand.

Of course he could be bullpooper, but I am pretty sure he aint. Mainly because Smith sat with him on his other seat last year at one of the games.

you getting the picture?

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:06 pm  

Tony Soprano wrote:

So you are saying that Leeds have not offered Smith a new contract on the say so of some bloke who sits behind you?

No I am saying they had not offered him a new contract when I previously posted it. It might well have happend since, and considering the piece in the YEP yesterday, I reckon it might.

And also I never said "some bloke". I said he was Smiths best mate. He certainly got everything right on the Scruton deal last year, and what was happening.

That said, I also said he could be a bullpooper. But certainly Smithy was sat with him at a game last year, when he was out of the team.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:07 pm  

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:19 pm  

News flash for G1. Players do have friends outside the dressing room. They dont stay with team mates you know.

Further news flash. Couple I go meet with at gym are best friends with Phil Clarke. Is that a childish laugh too?

I know its hard to comprehend adult talk.

: Tue Mar 17, 2009 2:25 pm  

Smith was at Odsal with Luke Burgess at the Bulls game on the weekend of the WCC. I got a little cheeky and asked if he's leaving the Rhinos for Kick and Clap. He replied with a Wry Smile and a less than convincing "Who knows whats gonna happen!" Sadly I feel that he will be leaving Leeds come the start of the Union season. I hope not because he's proving to be a talent in SL, but I would be suprised to see him stay. Suprised in a good way though