Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:11 pm  

I see the talent in Lilley and Golding although I still have slight reservations with regards to Golding. Handley, however, I have not seen anything from him to suggest he would make it at a top SL club. He has had a couple of good matches against Saints but he doesn't appear overly fast, he isn't great under the kick and he never looks like he'll break a tackle. I might be being harsh as he is only young and he may grow into a really good player but from what i've seen so far I have not been overly impressed. He just appears steady away at the moment.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:59 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

Thanks for that.

Maybe we can all enjoy the game a bit more now you have brought us up to speed.

Any other pearls you wish to share?

No problem, you obviously forgot that bit.

Can anyone else smell a red herring?

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:13 pm  

WireRL wrote:

No problem, you obviously forgot that bit.

Can anyone else smell a red herring?

It's obvious to everyone your one of those posters!

I've seen plenty of accounts like yours.

The point was how patronising are you (which isn't a red herring) posting stuff like

"Defence is just as important in a game as a attack"

No $hit Sherlock!

Rebuff! Rebuff! Straw man! False opposition!

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Tue Feb 09, 2016 11:58 pm  

Sure

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:06 am  

I'll just agree with everything you say next time and save myself the abuse.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 6:11 am  

It's always best to sleep on it!

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 7:55 am  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

I might be being harsh as he is only young and he may grow into a really good player

I really think you are being very harsh to be honest mate. Handley is way ahead of where anybody could have expected him to be right now.He has all the core skills needed imo, and the fact he played almost half a season at 18 scoring plenty of tries (13 in 21 games for Leeds 2015) and generally holding his own and not looking out of place against seasoned pro's bodes really well for the future. By comparison Ryan Hall was 19 almost 20 when he was just breaking into the Leeds side sporadically and was not the monster winger he is these days. Handley at 1 inch taller has the frame to also fill out and become an excellent three quarter in the next few years.If he keeps getting the game time at Fev and the odd game for us he is on the right track. Same goes for Golding and even Lilley ( who is getting his chance now but is no way fully developed) these lads need patience if we are to see them hit their full potential but that is a few years away.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 8:06 am  

rugbyleague88 wrote:

I see the talent in Lilley and Golding although I still have slight reservations with regards to Golding. Handley, however, I have not seen anything from him to suggest he would make it at a top SL club. He has had a couple of good matches against Saints but he doesn't appear overly fast, he isn't great under the kick and he never looks like he'll break a tackle. I might be being harsh as he is only young and he may grow into a really good player but from what i've seen so far I have not been overly impressed. He just appears steady away at the moment.

....have you been watching the same player? He scored some cracking tries last season and apart from a little hiccup against H'field I think, he never looked out of his depth. In fairness too after his 'hiccup' he bounced right back next match. He is faster than Hall and as equally fast as Briscoe - regardless speed aint everything these days for a quality winger. He is definitely fast enough for a SL threequarter, has elusive credentials, is strong (will get stronger) and I don't remember him ever been Joe Vickeryish in any way whatsoever. Now he was hopeless which everybody could see, apparently, long before our esteemed coaching staff did. I think the last straw for them was that bluddy awful crabbing across the defensive line before being embarrsingly pushed back over it (Hull??).

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 9:04 am  

Yeah, me too. I reckon if Handley had been a couple of years older we'd not have signed Briscoe.

Re: RD1 | Warrington Wolves : Wed Feb 10, 2016 10:22 am  

nantwichexile wrote:

apart from a little hiccup against H'field I think, he never looked out of his depth.

Going to have to take you up on that one.

There were a number of times he looked out of his depth last season - Cas at home when his backside fell out taking a straightforward high kick, Magic Weekend when he was like a rabbit in headlights and couldn't hold the ball in contact both stand out.

He did some good things, but let's not pretend there weren't times he looked to be in over his head as well.