: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:33 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Is Daniel Anderson a sh*t coach because Saints were comprehensively outplayed in the 2007 Grand Final?

It would appear so.

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:34 pm  

just asking the question mate. should he not get stick for the cc final?
was it sensible to play senior and have no prop on the bench?

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:34 pm  

So basically, every coach there's ever been is hugely over-rated because at some point one of their teams has failed to perform in a big game.

Fair enough, that's the terms of reference defined anyway...

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:35 pm  

Who has the best ratio for championships won

Wayne Bennett at Brisbane or Tony Smith at Leeds








That Wayne bloke must be sh17e

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:37 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

just asking the question mate. should he not get stick for the cc final?
was it sensible to play senior and have no prop on the bench?

He did what coaches are paid to do and made a decision.

Marcus Bai doesn't play silly sods in his own in-goal and this whole debate drifts into the winds of time as a non-event.

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:38 pm  

i would agree andy, my point is it was a bloody stupid decision

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:40 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

So in order to denegrate Smith's achievements, you're going to pick a couple of games out of over 100 or so as an example of him not being as good as everyone says he is?

Is Daniel Anderson a sh*t coach because Saints were comprehensively outplayed in the 2007 Grand Final?

Daniel Anderson is a great coach because he wins trophies on a regular basis, not one ever three years- compare his record to Smith's did Smith ever win all trophies in one season? - end of!!

Andy what I am saying is to just take the two GF wins and say Smith is a great coach is to overlook lots of dross and poor stuff in the intervening years - so to say because he won two big games as an example of how good he was is equally contrite.

Finally all this about Smith being great because he is the only Leeds coach since Francis to win two championships is more a reflection of his predecessors rather than his quality as an uber-coach?

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:40 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

i would agree andy, my point is it was a bloody stupid decision

Hands up anyone who hasn't made one, either at work or otherwise...

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:42 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

i would agree andy, my point is it was a bloody stupid decision

He based his selection partly on the dreadful performance by Mcdermott the previous week.

: Tue Jul 08, 2008 12:42 pm  

Andy Gilder wrote:

Hands up anyone who hasn't made one, either at work or otherwise...

sits and waits for gareth to say his hand is up!