: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:06 am  

rpw wrote:

That point you keep making really makes me laugh it's soooo ridiculous..

rpw wrote:

I'm going to leave it at that.

Why do you think it's ridiculous by the way? Both have played most (or even all?) of their time on the right wing this season.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:09 am  

The Magic Wand wrote:

Change them around then, its still the same outcome Richie.

Gilmour is a player I would have loved to see at Leeds, possibly the most criminally underrated player in SL.

He's not that underrated if you rate him ahead of SL's top try scorer and England's first choice centre over the last decade.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:14 am  

Richie wrote:

:?

Why do you think it's ridiculous by the way? Both have played most (or even all?) of their time on the [b]right wing this season[/b].

AND ?????????? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH SIDE OF THE FIELD THEY ARE CURRENTLY PLAYING ON. I'VE SWAPPED A WINGER FOR A WINGER AND A CENTRE FOR A CENTRE....

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:36 am  

rpw wrote:

AND ?????????? IT DOESN'T MATTER WHICH SIDE OF THE FIELD THEY ARE CURRENTLY PLAYING ON. I'VE SWAPPED A WINGER FOR A WINGER AND A CENTRE FOR A CENTRE....

Caps Are you going to type "FACT" after the end of your next piece
Of course it matters which side they play.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 8:58 am  

Richie wrote:

Caps Are you going to type "FACT" after the end of your next piece
Of course it matters which side they play.

Donald has played most his career so far at Leeds on the left wing. He is currently playing on the right to try and balance the inexperience of the backline.. so it doesn't matter which side either player is currently playing.

Your question was, who would you take out of the backline at Saints in place of what we have at Leeds. I said Gidley or Gilmour for Gibson, then Gardener for Hall. There would be no theoretical problem with that swap at all. If you want you could put Donald back on the left wing where has has spent most of his time since joining Leeds and put Gardner on the right..... Any argument to the contrary is totally and utterly ridculous and stupid.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:07 am  

rpw wrote:

:roll: Donald has played most his career so far at Leeds on the left wing. He is currently playing on the right to try and balance the inexperience of the backline.. so it doesn't matter which side either player is currently playing.

Your question was, who would you take out of the backline at Saints in place of what we have at Leeds. I said Gidley or Gilmour for Gibson, then Gardener for Hall. There would be no theoretical problem with that swap at all. If you want you could put Donald back on the left wing where has has spent most of his time since joining Leeds and put Gardner on the right..... Any argument to the contrary is totally and utterly ridculous and stupid.

There may be a small issue over salary cap. Whilst I am aware we are not using our full cap at present replacing Gibson and Hall with Gidley and Gardner would IMO not be good utilisation of the salary cap.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 9:28 am  

finglas wrote:

There may be a small issue over salary cap. Whilst I am aware we are not using our full cap at present replacing Gibson and Hall with Gidley and Gardner would IMO not be good utilisation of the salary cap.

Yep your right. That wasn't the original point of this though. It's only in theory.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:16 am  

rpw wrote:

Yep your right. That wasn't the original point of this though. It's only in theory.

Not really - you are talking about comparing like for like players and you take Saints best winger and centre and compare with Leeds "cheap" winger and centre. Yours is more fantasy than theory. Theory is based on trying to achieve a goal within given constraints, fantasy is what a few posters try to put post on here to rationalise their criticisms.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 10:22 am  

finglas wrote:

Not really - you are talking about comparing like for like players and you take Saints best winger and centre and compare with Leeds "cheap" winger and centre. Yours is more fantasy than theory. Theory is based on trying to achieve a goal within given constraints, fantasy is what a few posters try to put post on here to rationalise their criticisms.

Yes really. Fantasy/Theory whatever, the salary cap wasn't in the equasion. It was simply comparing Saints back line to ours.

Richie was suggesting that they weren't better man for man and I disagreed. He asked me who'd i'd swap for who and I responded.

: Wed Apr 15, 2009 2:29 pm  

Richie wrote:

He's not that underrated if you rate him ahead of SL's top try scorer

Where do Shaun Ainscough and Peter Fox feature in this discussion?