Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:00 pm  

Gaslight wrote:

So now a young player isn't allowed to show commitment for 80 minutes and put in a big hit? the excuses get worse

He clearly wasn't trying to put him in hospital either, like you've quite wrongly said, he was merely trying to make an impression to the coaches and force a knock on, which he did. It wasn't a clear intent to do damage bloody hell you'll try find a purpose for an accidental head collision if Walker came off second best, you'd have all been laughing at how he made himself look stupid etc etc, but because it happened to one of your lot you complain about it being a disgraceful act, when it was a freak injury that wouldn't happen 99/100, just like Richard Owen's injury at Bradford - it happens, deal with it.

And how was the celebration shocking? he stopped as soon as he saw Burgess was injured


Seriously, what is agreeable about ANYTHING he put? if you think a kid trying to put a big hit in and show effort is disgraceful etc I'd suggest RL is too rough a sport for you to be watching, go watch Football if you think he was being too rough for your precious little mind.

You dont read what is written do you. review back a few posts. No one has condemned the hit or the accidental contact and we all accept the nature of the game involves the possibilty of serious injury... as we keep saying they are all big boys.

What is in question here was the mindset of the Cas players and the OTT celebrations afterwards in this particular instance.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:04 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

You dont read what is written do you. review back a few posts. No one has condemned the hit or the accidental contact and we all accept the nature of the game involves the possibilty of serious injury... as we keep saying they are all big boys.

What is in question here was the mindset of the Cas players and the OTT celebrations afterwards in this particular instance.

The quote I highlighted was saying the hit was disgraceful and he was intentionally trying to harm Burgess, which is totally wrong, and you agree with.

There was NOTHING wrong with what he did after either, I've just watched it again, he bounces up and down fired up because he made a big hit and forced a knock on, look at him STOP as soon as he sees Burgess is seriously hurt, any player would react the same, and they do just watch next time a player puts in a big hit, you'll see them react in a similar way, Ryan Bailey does it every time too, so you can't complain about Walkers reaction when you applaud Bailey every time he does the same thing.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sat Aug 14, 2010 10:51 pm  

DoubleAone wrote:

What is in question here was the mindset of the Cas players and the OTT celebrations afterwards in this particular instance.

If you think that was over the top you need to watch more games pal

Nine times out of ten players react like that and the players didn't exactly carry it on after did they.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:14 am  

The fact it was Chev made all the difference. Pryce and Eastmond weren't afforded such generous applause when they suffered injuries at Headingley. Some double-standards on display here IMHO. It's unfortunate for Luke but I don't think the kid has anything to beat himself up about. (Well maybe the dodgy 'Barnet').

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 2:55 am  

nice to see that most fans agree there was no intent to harm Burgess. And as previously said shows how tough Rugby (league) players are to take a photo of yourself just after having your brains scrambled. Good luck to Big Luke for a speedy recovery

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 6:38 am  

Gaslight wrote:

The quote I highlighted was saying the hit was disgraceful and he was intentionally trying to harm Burgess, which is totally wrong, and you agree with.

NO I DONT

Gaslight wrote:

There was NOTHING wrong with what he did after either

YES THERE IS IMHO

Gaslight wrote:

Ryan Bailey does it every time too,

NO HE DOESNT

Gaslight wrote:

you applaud Bailey every time he does the same thing.

NO I DONT

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:30 am  

whats done is done and the main thing is that luke burgess recovers from a very serious injury.

one question id like to ask is if a england player puts in a hit on lets say paul gallen or billy slater in the tri nations which resulted in the player been ko`d would you still think it to be out of order ?

also the fact that it was the 78th minute and cas were beaten bares no relevence whats so ever,a game lasts for 80 minutes walker is a young man who has a career ahead of him and he will have wanted to make an impression and im sure he did,its not the first time walker has put in such hits he laid out james stosic in a pre season friendly last year and also did the same to george burgess in the academy semi final last year,adrian morley has made a career out of tackles with the shoulder charge and personally i dont see a problem with it has its within the rules of the game.

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 9:59 am  

braytontiger wrote:

whats done is done and the main thing is that luke burgess recovers from a very serious injury.

one question id like to ask is if a england player puts in a hit on lets say paul gallen or billy slater in the tri nations which resulted in the player been ko`d would you still think it to be out of order ?

also the fact that it was the 78th minute and cas were beaten bares no relevence whats so ever,a game lasts for 80 minutes walker is a young man who has a career ahead of him and he will have wanted to make an impression and im sure he did,its not the first time walker has put in such hits he laid out james stosic in a pre season friendly last year and also did the same to george burgess in the academy semi final last year,adrian morley has made a career out of tackles with the shoulder charge and personally i dont see a problem with it has its within the rules of the game.

I am only going to repeat this one more time coz I am begining to think either our friends done t` lane are having a wind up or they are thick.

to answer your questions in order

If the player was KO`d has you put it or injured NO I WOULDNT

I have repeatedly stated nothing wrong with the hit or the accidental contact by Graham at all as you state this is all within the rules of the game.

Jumping about and celebrating when a fellow pro is badly injured isnt OK in my book what ever side they are on

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:16 pm  

You're still twisting the incidents DoubleAlone. JW didn't jump and celebrate LB being unconscious and suffering a broken jaw. He jumped and celebrated the big hit, that is all. You are quite clearly taking something, twisting it on it's booty and then complaining over it like someone who is a bit daft and just wants to have a go at some other fans. You keep spouting on about your opinion, but base those opinions on facts and those facts from the sequence of events that actually happened not the ones you are making up to suit a pathetic argument.

Remember, our game is a massive high impact high speed contact sport. Players go out and bash each other every weekend and for that 80 minutes they are enemies. Those guys still have the respect though to finish the game, shake hands and have a beer with each other, even if the game explodes into a mass brawl or one of them brakes a jaw in a collision. This is what separates our game (among a few other great things) from football, a sport full of namby pamby, whinging cry babies. Which type of fan are you?

Re: Luke Burgess : Sun Aug 15, 2010 1:42 pm  

The thing is it wasn't the "big hit" that floored Burgess, it was the clash of heads. Not sure why the Cas player felt the need to celebrate this, fair enough if he'd sat him on his booty through a good shoulder charge rather than accidental contact. Without the clash of heads it looked like they would have just bounced off each other, you wouldn't celebrate that as a forward.