Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:25 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

true.
wakey and cas wernt though

And I’m not saying they are but neither of those beat us 50-0

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:26 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

This is how far we are behind.
50-0
A bang average Goon side has just walloped us into next week.

Completely unacceptable but will be passed off as a fluke.
We have truly and completely phoned it in.a terrifyingly poop capitulation.

They’re not bang average at all.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:27 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

true.
wakey and cas wernt though

Bit Hull got walloped by Cas last night and as you've said, they’ve taken steps forward

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:30 pm  

Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:31 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.

You could Google it?

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:35 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

Great idea. let's sign world class players and get wetherby bulldogs coach as the coach doesn't matter.
and let's judge smith on a full season. this season and his abject pre season.

World class players? We don't have the money. I never said coaches don't matter, I just believe players matter a whole lot more. What about having the loyalty and the patience to stick with what we we were clearly told was a long term project when Smith was appointed. The easy alternative is to sack him, but then what, or who? Do you have any ideas?

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:37 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.

Where are you going with this?

We got well beaten in the GF really.

This year’s team has beaten all the top sides and we’ve had a couple of really gutsy performances.

Those of you that have knives out for RS will use today as per of that you’re right, fair enough. In the vast majority of games we have been close. The standard of the whole league isn’t what it used to be but I still think RS can take us up the ladder if given support and resources.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:41 pm  

chapylad wrote:

Back to my original question.
Does anyone have the 21 man squad for last years semifinal and GF and is able to compare it to our strongest 21 man squad this season?
I`m interested to see how it compares.

Funnily enough I watched last years playoff game against Wigan last night!

Briscoe and Tindall were on the wings

I’d forgotten Martin was banned for hardly anything! So Hardaker was kicking the goals.

We were outstanding that night, Bentley and OConnervthe standouts.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 8:46 pm  

ArthurClues wrote:

World class players? We don't have the money. I never said coaches don't matter, I just believe players matter a whole lot more. What about having the loyalty and the patience to stick with what we we were clearly told was a long term project when Smith was appointed. The easy alternative is to sack him, but then what, or who? Do you have any ideas?

Smith is a strategist and I do think he’s been brought in to bottom out the restructure. Yes, it should all have been done by now and the handover from the Goldens was a catastrophe but we are where we are.

Thought experiment: put me as coach of Brisbane Broncos and I’ll beat the pants of the world’s #1 coach taking charge of Lock Lane. Even given a year or two to work with those players. Yes coaches can bind and improve players but you have to be without shouting distance for that to come into play.

Re: RD 25 | Wigan Warriors (H) : Sat Sep 09, 2023 9:19 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

It was very hot and tempers flare easily.

We have all also had a lot of frustration this year and frustrating performances. And that’s off the back of years of underperformance from Leeds.

But it’s not right to take it out on the players. They try their best. We have some cavalry on the horizon and more to come - hopefully RS has as much say in who as possible.

A 50-0 spanking at home by the auld enemy is terrible. But… we move on. I do think next year will be better.

You talk some rubbish to put it kindly