Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 12:28 pm  

lionarmour87 wrote:

So Bailey has done something good by coming out about this .Thankyou Bails

Un-intentionally maybe

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:03 pm  

Superted wrote:

Un-intentionally maybe

all I am sayng is here seems to be quite a number of people on here who seem to be thankful to talk with other suffererers

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:15 pm  

I know - I was messing about....

It's fantastic that people on here have been able to discuss the matter and get something positive from this whole conversation! Great stuff...

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:31 pm  

Superted wrote:

I know - I was messing about....

It's fantastic that people on here have been able to discuss the matter and get something positive from this whole conversation! Great stuff...

Yes

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 2:51 pm  

Omar Little wrote:

Which completely misses the point that there is a massive stigma attached to mental health...we're in catch-22 (the book) and one flew over a cukoos nest territory here - to fake depression you'd probably need to have a mental health issue!

I don't think I'm missing the point. I'm sure their is massive stigma associated with mental health issues,my point was something entirely different. Don't kid yourself that people who fake depression always have mental health issues. The one's that I know we're sly, devious people looking for financial gain. Having stood in a pub and listened to someone who faked depression advising another person what to say when he visited the doctor, I know it was greed not mental illness determining their actions.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:57 pm  

Seth wrote:

One thing that doesn't support mental health is spending too much time on line and believing some peoples views are representative of the majority.

I've had a predisposition towards depression for about 20 years, and it's only in recent years that ive opened up about it since getting to a point where I didn't want to go on anymore. On top of what is a family history of mental illness I also suffered debilitating arthritis (now controlled with weekly injections) and I had also planned a family with a girlfriend who then had a termination against my will, I'd never been to a lower place.

Through all of this I've used my career in sport development and voluntary coaching (in my 13th year) to give me a purpose. I've worked incredibly hard to better myself through these outlets, seeing a councillor for the last 2 1/2 years and taking medication aswell as overcoming the shame of it and opening up to others. It could have been very easy to give in completely, and I have been at that point, but I feel I deserve more.

Good to hear so many empathetic people.

In my fairly limited experience of social media, this thread is the most moving I have ever read.

If I am right in my thinking you are a very fine coach by the way, a view that would be endorsed by a number of the up and coming rhinos including young Mr Golding.

Keep up the good work.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 8:14 pm  

Mark Laurie wrote:

In my fairly limited experience of social media, this thread is the most moving I have ever read.

If I am right in my thinking you are a very fine coach by the way, a view that would be endorsed by a number of the up and coming rhinos including young Mr Golding.

Keep up the good work.

Thank you, such a thoughtful post to make. It's been a privilege to work with young athletes like Ash and others and I look forward to seeing my current 16s continue their development too. The people ive come across and the focus it has given me has made a big difference to my life and I'll never forget all the players and the memories.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Jan 22, 2016 9:39 pm  

Seth wrote:

Thank you, such a thoughtful post to make. It's been a privilege to work with young athletes like Ash and others and I look forward to seeing my current 16s continue their development too. The people ive come across and the focus it has given me has made a big difference to my life and I'll never forget all the players and the memories.

You are welcome, you should be proud of the contribution you have made and continue to make.

I have great respect to all that have written so openly on this thread.

I consider myself fortunate in this regard but have seen the ignorance and the damage done to para-phrase Neil Young.
Looking back I think depression was a significant contributory factor to my mother's relatively early death and the impact of certain periods of her life effectively altered my brother's personality and I believe probably changed how his life has panned out. He has a good job and is very well off but closed down in many ways.
I am turning the clock back a bit here, but she was given electric shock therapy a number of times and this from the so called experts in the medical profession.
Sure we have moved on a bit since then but think there is still a long way to go.
Good Luck to all.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:20 am  

Wow!... and again WOW! This thread has been a real eye opener. I post rarely, but read for 'fun' and information, gossip and news. Names of posters become familiar and perceptions are formed. This thread has stopped me in my tracks! What started out with such a nasty whiff of cynicism has turned into a life-affirming, inspiring and thought-provoking one. I am filled with sheer admiration for the guys who have taken this chance to tell it as it is and have described so accurately what real depression is and feels like. This would have not happened without Bails speaking out and for that I think he deserves thanks. I really hope he reads this and knows what he has managed to do. For those of you 'opinionated, hard-talking and macho' posters who have bared your souls, admiration and respect is huge and you have surely achieved a real step forward in this thread. It may gradually fade away, like all others, and sink lower down the page, but it has surely been unique. Thank you too, especially those who have turned their depression face-about and put so much into helping others and adding so much to the game I love. It's devotees are surely a really special bunch!

Re: Ryan Bailey : Sat Jan 23, 2016 10:48 am  

Awesome thread! Just awesome. I've nothing to add that hasn't already been said. I've been there and come out the other side.

All I can say is that those who are doing it tough, hang in there. You are not alone.