Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:37 am  

christopher wrote:

Smith is still untangling the mess created during the Agar years.

It will take longer than the 6 months hes been here. Apparently the work he’s doing within the club is all about the long term. Problem is fans are fickle snd see everything in the short term.

Wouldn’t say fans are ‘fickle’, but have been duped into believing the short term, cancel culture works. Society in general has gone that way. I would say people over 40 know that improvement takes time and patience. Think Fergie had about 5 years at United before winning anything!

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:39 am  

christopher wrote:

Smith is still untangling the mess created during the Agar years.

It will take longer than the 6 months hes been here. Apparently the work he’s doing within the club is all about the long term. Problem is fans are fickle snd see everything in the short term.

We do need to get it right to give us the best chance of success in the medium to long term, but that does need to be balanced with results and, dare I say it, entertainment, in the short term. That's just the nature of professional sport and the world we're in, where there are many competing areas in which to spend our leisure £££. Difficult to achieve? Probably. But it's a challenge that needs to be met head on.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:40 am  

christopher wrote:

Smith is still untangling the mess created during the Agar years.

It will take longer than the 6 months hes been here. Apparently the work he’s doing within the club is all about the long term. Problem is fans are fickle snd see everything in the short term.

I agree you need to stick with it for at least this and the next two seasons - by then if it isn't working then its time to review.

Hopefully like Murray he can change the culture in the club, develop a youth development structure that actually delivers. Improve external recruitment that fits into the style he wants to play which looks like West Tigers 2005.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:44 am  

KaeruJim wrote:

Voice of reason again here folks if I may: Smith is still working with the same squad that was getting mullered most of the time. The new players he has been able to bring in have mostly been bargain bin just to give the squad some balance. Until the like ls of Tet leave he doesn’t have much chance to bring in really quality.

Some of the new signings he has made have been decent in the circumstances; but the squad still isn’t good enough to be consistent every week. Not at this stage of the season anyway.

We have an absolutely cracking set of young lads coming thorough but we have not got the senior signings right for years.

Agreed

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:45 am  

YosemiteSam wrote:

We do need to get it right to give us the best chance of success in the medium to long term, but that does need to be balanced with results and, dare I say it, entertainment, in the short term. That's just the nature of professional sport and the world we're in, where there are many competing areas in which to spend our leisure £££. Difficult to achieve? Probably. But it's a challenge that needs to be met head on.

Yes, that's a fair assessment.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 9:50 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

Agreed

Yep, great post

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:43 am  

Shabino wrote:

Is Johnson just not rated by Rohan? Been talking of Bentley at 9 of late…… Johnson is 22 now a supposedly has great passing and decision making. Roby Clarke, even Walker at Widnes were making a mark in late teens. When is he going to get a chance for some big minutes?

Looking at how Rohan treats the younger players and the fact Johnson has only played 40 mins since his op, I assume Rohan wants him to play more minutes before bringing him into the first team.

That combined with the fact he had to have cover on the bench for Newman. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Bradford this week. as other people say Rohan seems to look at the long term plan rather than panic decisions.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 10:53 am  

GhostRunner wrote:

Looking at how Rohan treats the younger players and the fact Johnson has only played 40 mins since his op, I assume Rohan wants him to play more minutes before bringing him into the first team.

That combined with the fact he had to have cover on the bench for Newman. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Bradford this week. as other people say Rohan seems to look at the long term plan rather than panic decisions.

Johnson also took a year out of the game which hindered his progress. He’ll get his chance.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:07 am  

GhostRunner wrote:

Looking at how Rohan treats the younger players and the fact Johnson has only played 40 mins since his op, I assume Rohan wants him to play more minutes before bringing him into the first team.

That combined with the fact he had to have cover on the bench for Newman. I wouldn't be surprised to see him at Bradford this week. as other people say Rohan seems to look at the long term plan rather than panic decisions.

Exactly right. I do think there are a small minority on here who would take pleasure in Johnson not achieving the potential he showed as a youngster. I can't get my head round that. Now is his chance, but only when he is physically ready. Two or three weeks in the reserves or on loan would do no harm at all. By the end of the season we'll probably know about Johnson one way or another, but for now we should have our fingers crossed for him.

Re: SL RD 5 | Castleford Tigers (A) : Fri Mar 17, 2023 11:29 am  

ArthurClues wrote:

Exactly right. I do think there are a small minority on here who would take pleasure in Johnson not achieving the potential he showed as a youngster. I can't get my head round that. Now is his chance, but only when he is physically ready. Two or three weeks in the reserves or on loan would do no harm at all. By the end of the season we'll probably know about Johnson one way or another, but for now we should have our fingers crossed for him.

He looked like a real talent - hopefully he can carry that forward - we certainly need a quality 9