: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:00 pm  

southstander4life wrote:

if leeds were playing well and losing fair enough but were making avegae sides look good

But basically this thread would not have been started if we won yesterday or against Saints both narrow defeats i dont know why anyone would honestly think sacking the coach is the thing to do.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:03 pm  

a coach is one of the hardest jobs to do imo, i for one couldn't be a coach as they take so much stick & critisism.

lets get behind him ffs

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:03 pm  

Lets hope this is as far as the slide go's.

I agree Tvoc the discipline this year is outrageously bad, chelping at the ref when a call goes against us. Im all for questioning a dubious or mis-enterpreted call by the captain but the amount of whinging at the moment is unreal.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:05 pm  

Thats one of the things I miss about the TS era. I bet we've given away more penalties in Bluey's first season and a bit than we ever did in Ts' 4 season at HQ.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:05 pm  

Leeds Rhinos Superman wrote:

But basically this thread would not have been started if we won yesterday or against Saints both narrow defeats i dont know why anyone would honestly think sacking the coach is the thing to do.

Too true, but IMO we havent put in a full games graft ALL SEASON.

But 8 games in and second in the league when we are not even in second gear........

I can live with that.

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:06 pm  

Could you please change m wrote:

Thats one of the things I miss about the TS era. I bet we've given away more penalties in Bluey's first season and a bit than we ever did in Ts' 4 season at HQ.

Come in TVOC.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:07 pm  

Eastwoods Delayed Visa wrote:

Too true, but IMO we havent put in a full games graft ALL SEASON.

But 8 games in and second in the league when we are not even in second gear........

I can live with that.

agreed.
people acting like were the worst team in SL, we can't be doing too much wrong if were 2nd in the league.

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:17 pm  

tad rhino wrote:

the same tony smith who was gash in 2006?

ffs we are champions,8 games into the season and second in the league.

smith came good in 2007 and who is to say we won't win in again this season.

what a dick

Is that it? You think Bluey is a tactical genius who has built on what Smith achieved? He even used the Smith blueprint to beat Saints in the last GF, unfortunately for him, the DNA left over from the Smith era is starting to disapate?

And you call me a dick!!

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:19 pm  

The Magic Wand wrote:

Is that it? You think Bluey is a tactical genius who has built on what Smith achieved? He even used the Smith blueprint to beat Saints in the last GF, unfortunately for him, the DNA left over from the Smith era is starting to disapate?

And you call me a dick!!

yep,thats about it

: Sat Apr 11, 2009 1:20 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Is it the coaches fault when his team produce:

Penalty count 12 - 6

Generic Offside - 4
Dissent - 1
Senior - 1
JJB - 1
Watkins - 1
Sinfield - 1
Webb - 1
Ablett - 1
Leuluai - 1

Forward Pass Awarded - 1

McGuire 1

Knock Ons - 10

Senior - 3
Watkins - 3
JJB - 3
Bailey - 1

Power play Brainfart

On half way - 1

He's at least partly responsible but I can't help thinking he's been let down by both his CEO (for not providing him with the best squad the salary cap can buy) and the player's (for putting in a series of half-bootyd performances recently, culminating in last night.)

Before the St Helens cup game McClennan's press release was all about winning the penalty count. They didn't then and last night it was the biggest failure in that department all season and it had some pretty stiff competition to overcome.

Another great point for debate ... how many penalty counts have we actually won this season?

Without any stats, my gut feeling is we have lost the majority?

This lack of discipline is hurting us, the coach has publically stated it's a priority to fix this but the players are showing massive frustration with referees on the field.

Is this paranoia coming from the top down, could it be McClennan encouraging an "everyone is against us" mentality that is backfiring?

Another example of this is how quickly Bentham seems to be taking on the "public enemy No 1" tag at Headingley .... instantly replacing Klein.