Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:23 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Were the U20s results so bad solely because of Poching's coaching? Or were the tools he had to work with not as good as in previous seasons? Those that say it was down to Poching, what evidence have you got to back that up? I'd say it's never black and white in these situations.

It's funny how some people are lining up to back McDermott who has a questionable record at Quins yet are ready to write off Poching who had a comparable record with the U20s. I wonder if they'd be saying the same if McDermott was joining another club?

There's a fair bit on inconsistency IMHO!

Simple in'it... McDermott is joining us. Poaching is leaving us.

We're all blindly following the mighty Rhinos with Blue & Amber specs on, and there's certainly nothing inconsistent about that!

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:35 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

Were the U20s results so bad solely because of Poching's coaching? Or were the tools he had to work with not as good as in previous seasons? Those that say it was down to Poching, what evidence have you got to back that up? I'd say it's never black and white in these situations.

It's funny how some people are lining up to back McDermott who has a questionable record at Quins yet are ready to write off Poching who had a comparable record with the U20s. I wonder if they'd be saying the same if McDermott was joining another club?

There's a fair bit on inconsistency IMHO!

We've already seen what impact Brian Mc has had when he was the assistent to TS and the immediate after effect when he 1st left so that initself buys Brian Mc some time and grace as no1.
With Poching the u20's were'nt as bad a team as the results were suggesting imo and some of the performances were absolutely woefull now of course the players themselves take a good % of blame for that but it was'nt all down to them and overall Pochings tenure as u20's coach was'nt as good as it could of been imo.
How he turns out as TS's no2 remains to be seen and he was a fantastic servant to our club as a player but ATEOD the club decided not to retain/offer him a new deal and that points to GH being not exactly 100% impressed with his efforts as the u20's boss also.
That's absolutely nothing to do with consistency of opinion just how it is and as for Lowes i still remain sceptical about his appointment but he's gone through the interview process and got the position so we'll have to wait and see.

[Bullseye]

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Tue Nov 23, 2010 2:38 pm  

Remarkable_Rhinos wrote:

Simple in'it... McDermott is joining us. Poaching is leaving us.

We're all blindly following the mighty Rhinos with Blue & Amber specs on, and there's certainly nothing inconsistent about that!

It's what fans do isn't it? We all did the same at the Bulls when McNamara got the head coach job. You try and convince yourself of the positives!

It's going to be an interesting 2011.

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:00 pm  

Bullseye wrote:

:lol:

It's what fans do isn't it? We all did the same at the Bulls when McNamara got the head coach job. You try and convince yourself of the positives!

There were positives about McNamara? Apart from the obvious that some day his contract would end of course.

[Bullseye]

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Tue Nov 23, 2010 6:29 pm  

Era of the Biff wrote:

There were positives about McNamara? Apart from the obvious that some day his contract would end of course.

IIRC plenty of us hoped him taking over would go as smoothly as the last couple of changes where the assistant had taken over from the senior man. As I recall nobody at the time said that he was hopeless and we should steer clear.

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Wed Nov 24, 2010 9:26 am  

Bullseye wrote:

:lol:

It's what fans do isn't it? We all did the same at the Bulls when McNamara got the head coach job. You try and convince yourself of the positives!

It's going to be an interesting 2011.

Can't disagree with that.

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Wed Nov 24, 2010 10:22 am  

The pool of talent in last few years hasn't really helped Poaching. From the snippets I have heard about him did appear he was bit too nicey nicey around the place, and some of the players saw him more of a ''mate'' than a coach.

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Wed Nov 24, 2010 11:25 am  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

Bullseye wrote:

:lol:

It's what fans do isn't it? We all did the same at the Bulls when McNamara got the head coach job. You try and convince yourself of the positives!

It's going to be an interesting 2011.

Can't disagree with that.

Interestingly enough, there's been a few whispers that has been the case with McClennan. Whether or not they're true, we will never know!

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Wed Nov 24, 2010 1:17 pm  

vb1981 wrote:

The pool of talent in last few years hasn't really helped Poaching. From the snippets I have heard about him did appear he was bit too nicey nicey around the place, and some of the players saw him more of a ''mate'' than a coach.

From my albeit limited info and from what I've witnessed myself, I'd have to agree with that.

Re: Willie Poaching gone to Wire : Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:16 pm  

most teams no matter how good they are need a change in coaching personel every so often just so fresh ideas and tactics can be tried
it also stops players becoming too complacent about their places and improves focus on trying to get a place in the starting 13

as for the u20s no doubt there will be at least 1 player thats failing to impress now that leaves the club only to return in a few years as an established super league player, just because they didnt roll every team over last season doesnt mean poaching wasnt a good coach, the cream like clarkson will still rise through the ranks to reach the first team