Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Tue Jul 17, 2012 3:57 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

To be fair to JJB he was written off on this board at an early stage of his career, and went on to prove many posters wrong (myself included). IIRC he has mentioned in the past that reading the criticism on here gave him that little bit extra motivation - hopefully this will work again... Apart from his tendency to give away penalties he's largely managed to avoid flak on southstander in recent years, unlike many other players, which is a credit to his consistency IMO.

I was one of his critics early in his career. I honestly couldn't see him making a top flight, first-team player.

It will be a relief to you all that I can confirm that I have nothing whatsoever to do witheither first team recruitment or the academy, as I am clearly a know-nowt.

If you'd told me in 2002/03 that in a decade he'd be my second favourite player of all time, I would have laughed at you.

He'll bounce back from this. The really pleasing thing is that a key member of the pack had an off day on Saturday and the rest of the pack did the job and filled the gap. That's what a team is all about. JJB has upped his game to cover others more than enough times. That's the nature of team sport.

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:18 pm  

word at the stanningley clubhouse is that jjb was told to target sam's lines of running and that the defenders either side would cover the inside or outside runners,this tactic didn't pay off on the day and jjb looked to be off the pace as a result

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:42 pm  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

word at the stanningley clubhouse is that jjb was told to target sam's lines of running and that the defenders either side would cover the inside or outside runners,this tactic didn't pay off on the day and jjb looked to be off the pace as a result

How does this explain the two hand offs Tomkins put on him in one set!! surely if he was marking Tomkins he should have made the hit?

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Tue Jul 17, 2012 6:44 pm  

Hear he's a problem with his wrist, being assessed and could need surgery.

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Tue Jul 17, 2012 7:09 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

How does this explain the two hand offs Tomkins put on him in one set!! surely if he was marking Tomkins he should have made the hit?

i can see the headlines now mr perfect
professional rugby league player jjb guillty of 2 missed tackles on sam tomkins
jjb is a 100% grafter for our side and is not prone to having the odd bad game or missing the odd tackle here and there,just as sir kev misses the odd conversion every now and again
i take it that those 2 missed tackles will be your lasting memory of jonesy?

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Wed Jul 18, 2012 6:43 am  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

i can see the headlines now mr perfect
professional rugby league player jjb guillty of 2 missed tackles on sam tomkins
jjb is a 100% grafter for our side and is not prone to having the odd bad game or missing the odd tackle here and there,just as sir kev misses the odd conversion every now and again
i take it that those 2 missed tackles will be your lasting memory of jonesy?

If it only were just a couple of missed tackles in one set!! His form over the past few weeks has been poor - his performance on Saturday could easily has cost his team a place at Wembley!!

No one is disputing his 100% effort and commitment to the team but sometimes, no matter what your bias you cannot gloss over everything and make excuses because he has played well in the past. Plenty on here are giving Tomkins some stick for exactly the same stuff - great player but he had a shocker, not as bad as JJB on the day but by his own high standards a shocker.

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Wed Jul 18, 2012 7:27 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

If it only were just a couple of missed tackles in one set!! His form over the past few weeks has been poor - his performance on Saturday could easily has cost his team a place at Wembley!!

No one is disputing his 100% effort and commitment to the team but sometimes, no matter what your bias you cannot gloss over everything and make excuses because he has played well in the past. Plenty on here are giving Tomkins some stick for exactly the same stuff - great player but he had a shocker, not as bad as JJB on the day but by his own high standards a shocker.

I don't understand how people can ignore it. Out of seventeen players for us on Saturday he was the only one who had a poor game. And he did have a poor game.

And it wasn't just Saturday, that type of defending has been happening for a number of weeks.

I see it said that he has a wrist injury. To be honest that would explain a lot, as his problem is that he is going high in the tackle and trying to get the ball and all hold. Due to lack of completing the grip he is been swatted off. But why the hell is he playing with an injury that is stopping him from performing his role fully. If true that says a lot about the way McDermott coaches and picks the side. It's not as if his attacking ability is a reason to pick him, it was always his desire and effort that won him his place.

This isn't a let's get JJB out post by the way. It is a let's get JJB right post.

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Wed Jul 18, 2012 8:28 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

How does this explain the two hand offs Tomkins put on him in one set!! surely if he was marking Tomkins he should have made the hit?

tomkins is very elusive

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Wed Jul 18, 2012 4:17 pm  

Jonesy's a Legend wrote:

i can see the headlines now mr perfect
professional rugby league player jjb guillty of 2 missed tackles on sam tomkins
jjb is a 100% grafter for our side and is not prone to having the odd bad game or missing the odd tackle here and there,just as sir kev misses the odd conversion every now and again
i take it that those 2 missed tackles will be your lasting memory of jonesy?

what would be your lasting memory apart from him being a grafter?

big hits? long distance tries? powering over from 5 yards?

Someone who's done remarkably well to overcome injuries and runs his blood to water. to overcome no particular standout abilities, but can damage the team by doing so

Re: Jamie Jones-Buchanan : Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:50 pm  

It has been a recurring theme that JJB has been isolated for identical tries between our posts on a regular basis. That these scorers have had acres of space to oppose JJB and often score untouched in the middle of the field from one pass from dummy half is a far greater concern to me than JJBs individual form. Something aint right in our structure and it needs fixing.

That said, JJB was terrible Saturday. I found his turnovers in their 25 the most frustrating.

He doesn't draw too much flak because of past contributions.

Gotcha doesn't like him because of his facial hairl