Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 8:53 am  

If he is fit he has to play, particularly after the shananigins of the past couple of weeks.He is the only option of a half decent kicking game in the current squad,and something has to be done to relieve the pressure on busted pensioner pack,in my view.

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 9:42 am  

For mine, it doesn't matter where we play him. For me, the important thing is we should play him somewhere. Whatever his deficiencies may or may not be in any given position, our need for his game management and leadership skills eclipses those considerations. We know we have to find a replacement for those skills for next season and I hope that the sleeve has that requirement at the top of his to do list alongside replacement props. But what we have seen over the last 3 games and in others before that, is that those skills can not be fully replicated from with in the current squad YET.

I am sure the potential is there to replace Sinfield, but for now, we don't need to force the issue. Let's utilise his ability as an organiser and leader on the field, whilst we still can. The reality of not having those skills available next season needs to be addressed and a replacement, from within or without, identified. But there is time to do that.

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 5:30 pm  

Sinfield at 13, he doesn't have to play the full 80 but should be a starter

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 6:23 pm  

sinny will start on saturday

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 7:12 pm  

Gotcha wrote:

That was horrendous at times today, yet so easy to fix. All it needs is a calming Influence who can use their head, a proper captain.

I think MCDermott has just gone back to his pig ignorant attitude of previous, and wanting to prove a point. A point he was wrong on.

A bit like the Castleford home game last season and the final play against Catalans in the play offs. It wasn't all great when Sinfield was captain and leader last season. IIRC he was also the captain and leader against Warrington away who threw the interception pass? So on here need to take their rose tinted glasses off - Sinfield 2015 isn't Sinfield 2010 and the idea that the only thing stopping us winning games is his participation is bonkers.

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 7:38 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

A bit like the Castleford home game last season and the final play against Catalans in the play offs. It wasn't all great when Sinfield was captain and leader last season. IIRC he was also the captain and leader against Warrington away who threw the interception pass? So on here need to take their rose tinted glasses off - Sinfield 2015 isn't Sinfield 2010 and the idea that the only thing stopping us winning games is his participation is bonkers.

Although I completely agree with what you've said here Sal, I think you're missing the point of many, I don't for one minute believe the majority want sinfield in the team for his playing ability, it's more his onfield management/organisation, which is without doubt, what we missed yesterday and for that second half against Huddersfield.

They just didn't seem fired up yesterday and lacked a bit of effort at times to be honest, if we're not going to be organised or make the right decisions with sinfield not on the pitch at pivotal points in games, the least we need is a bit more hunger and hardwork, which isn't coming IMO

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 8:35 pm  

glass permanently half full of pee wrote:

A bit like the Castleford home game last season and the final play against Catalans in the play offs. It wasn't all great when Sinfield was captain and leader last season. IIRC he was also the captain and leader against Warrington away who threw the interception pass? So on here need to take their rose tinted glasses off - Sinfield 2015 isn't Sinfield 2010 and the idea that the only thing stopping us winning games is his participation is bonkers.

Ridiculous post. I can't remember us ever going unbeaten for a season, with KS playing a perfect game every week, in the past either.
I can remember us winning 6 GFs plus the challenge cup, LLS and WCC on more than one occasion under his leadership though.

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 9:55 pm  

When the team were playing very well I'd imagine they didn't need Sinfield's leadership. Now they certainly do, not even mentioning his goal kicking.

I've heard said "we need to learn to play without him". Well, aside from the fact that we don't, he's a Rhinos player the rest of this year and 2015 is not a dress rehearsal for 2016, don't we need to learn to play without Peacock?

It's lunacy that he isn't in the 13 (forget the bench) if he's fit. He's needed, fairly desperatley given the last few performances.

Re: Sinfield : Mon May 11, 2015 10:18 pm  

[quote="G1"]When the team were playing very well I'd imagine they didn't need Sinfield's leadership. Now they certainly do, not even mentioning his goal kicking.

I've heard said "we need to learn to play without him". Well, aside from the fact that we don't, he's a Rhinos player the rest of this year and 2015 is not a dress rehearsal for 2016, don't we need to learn to play without Peacock?

It's lunacy that he isn't in the 13 (forget the bench) if he's fit. He's needed, fairly desperatley given the last few performances.[/quote

Could not have put it better myself.

Let's hope McDermott is man enough to swallow his stubborn pride

Re: Sinfield : Tue May 12, 2015 6:18 am  

Claypitrhino wrote:

Although I completely agree with what you've said here Sal, I think you're missing the point of many, I don't for one minute believe the majority want sinfield in the team for his playing ability, it's more his onfield management/organisation, which is without doubt, what we missed yesterday and for that second half against Huddersfield.

They just didn't seem fired up yesterday and lacked a bit of effort at times to be honest, if we're not going to be organised or make the right decisions with sinfield not on the pitch at pivotal points in games, the least we need is a bit more hunger and hardwork, which isn't coming IMO

You have missed my point - I have given you three examples of his on-field game management, all three incidents were situations that were completely within his control and he didn't make the correct decision. The idea that when he returns he will be Sinfield circa 2010 isn't born out by the evidence on the field. Less said about the WC semi final the better.

Do you honestly think his being on the field is going to change the attitude and quality of play of the likes of Peacock, Burrow, Handley, Aiton, Singleton, Achurch - seriously?