Re: 2021 members update : Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:05 pm  

Anyone else find it odd that on the day next year's season tickets went on sale there hasn't been anything on the website to promote it? Just the item from yesterday which said they were going on sale today.

Re: 2021 members update : Wed Oct 13, 2021 8:20 pm  

Good to see the bring a friend for free is back

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 12:27 pm  

I don't know if this has been discussed before, but isn't it time for a steaming season ticket?

For some of us, work and family commitments or geography, it's bloody hard to get to games as often as we'd like. Leeds are usually well-covered on Sky but I would buy a streaming service from the club no problem.

I think the notion that clubs greatest source of income is gate receipts is old-fashioned now. There are LOTS of Leeds fans around the world who might buy in to watching games digitally.

We need atmosphere don't get me wrong, but technology now allows decent streaming if you invest in the tech and production.

Just got me thinking with the OurLeague streaming of Turner's testimonial for £4.95.

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 1:10 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

I don't know if this has been discussed before, but isn't it time for a steaming season ticket?

For some of us, work and family commitments or geography, it's bloody hard to get to games as often as we'd like. Leeds are usually well-covered on Sky but I would buy a streaming service from the club no problem.

I think the notion that clubs greatest source of income is gate receipts is old-fashioned now. There are LOTS of Leeds fans around the world who might buy in to watching games digitally.

We need atmosphere don't get me wrong, but technology now allows decent streaming if you invest in the tech and production.

Just got me thinking with the OurLeague streaming of Turner's testimonial for £4.95.

Ive always thought were a big enough club to have a subscription ‘Rhinos TV’ type thing, it could be included in the ‘gold’ membership as well as being available for £5 a month or maybe even £10.

Show full games, it could be done so they aren’t live (to stop it cutting into attendance figures) have some decent content rather than the terrible after game interviews, behind the scenes stuff, fans commentary at games, coaches interviews, former players etc

Id definitely pay on too of my ST for something like that.

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 2:13 pm  

christopher wrote:

Ive always thought were a big enough club to have a subscription ‘Rhinos TV’ type thing, it could be included in the ‘gold’ membership as well as being available for £5 a month or maybe even £10.

Show full games, it could be done so they aren’t live (to stop it cutting into attendance figures) have some decent content rather than the terrible after game interviews, behind the scenes stuff, fans commentary at games, coaches interviews, former players etc

Id definitely pay on too of my ST for something like that.

It's a nice efficient way to generate extra revenue. I'm guessing the broadcasters might not like it or there might be some contractual block on doing it, but that's part of your negotiations.

I mean they do a decent job with the free YouTube content but yes some BTS exclusive content would be good. Games live or recorded - I just think there must be thousands of potential subscribers out there, current ST holders and others from all over the place. I reckon you could do £30-40k extra revenue per month in-season and build on that over time.

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 3:39 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

It's a nice efficient way to generate extra revenue. I'm guessing the broadcasters might not like it or there might be some contractual block on doing it, but that's part of your negotiations.

I mean they do a decent job with the free YouTube content but yes some BTS exclusive content would be good. Games live or recorded - I just think there must be thousands of potential subscribers out there, current ST holders and others from all over the place. I reckon you could do £30-40k extra revenue per month in-season and build on that over time.

I think hull kr already do something similar so don’t think theres a contractual issue?

Seems a no brainer to me especially as the cost to entry to actually film some stuff is relatively cheap these days, JJB also has a fair bit of experience in this area, wouldn’t want his mate alex simmons involved though i thought he was really poor on rugby AM

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:10 pm  

christopher wrote:

I think hull kr already do something similar so don’t think theres a contractual issue?

Seems a no brainer to me especially as the cost to entry to actually film some stuff is relatively cheap these days, JJB also has a fair bit of experience in this area, wouldn’t want his mate alex simmons involved though i thought he was really poor on rugby AM

At the moment there is no possibility of showing a live league game - Sky hold exclusive rights to SL - however, that will change next year as the Sky agreement is for them to show 2 games per week exclusively, the rest can be live streamed (with the option of selling 10 games a year to another broadcaster), so this opens up the possibility of clubs or the RFL through OurLeague streaming the games for a fee.

I assume Hull KR (like Warrington) stream the games after 48 hours, Warrington have a Facebook Live account that hey charge £3.50 per month for I think, that shows delayed games and old classics etc - I think they could do more content than they do though with pre match interviews and similar.

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:16 pm  

christopher wrote:

I think hull kr already do something similar so don’t think theres a contractual issue?

Seems a no brainer to me especially as the cost to entry to actually film some stuff is relatively cheap these days, JJB also has a fair bit of experience in this area, wouldn’t want his mate alex simmons involved though i thought he was really poor on rugby AM

They already have the lad who covers Academy (Dan?) but the production value would need to significantly improve for first team / commercial service.

Like you say, it could be a standalone service or taken in conjuction with matchday attendance tickets. Maybe I am the only potential customer in the world (or you and me!) but I suspect there are many more.

If we're serious about broadening the market of the game we have to use technology to take it to the consumer IMO. It's a 1:many solution which has huge potential scope commercially as long as a) the team is good and entertaining to watch and b) the value add in additional content is there.

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 4:53 pm  

Alffi_7 wrote:

At the moment there is no possibility of showing a live league game - Sky hold exclusive rights to SL - however, that will change next year as the Sky agreement is for them to show 2 games per week exclusively, the rest can be live streamed (with the option of selling 10 games a year to another broadcaster), so this opens up the possibility of clubs or the RFL through OurLeague streaming the games for a fee.

I assume Hull KR (like Warrington) stream the games after 48 hours, Warrington have a Facebook Live account that hey charge £3.50 per month for I think, that shows delayed games and old classics etc - I think they could do more content than they do though with pre match interviews and similar.

Personally id be happy with games showed after the event like hull kr and Warrington do, but i can see how live streaming would be welcomed by a lot of people, I honestly don’t think it would affect crowds by any meaningful measure, I mean are our games shown on sky now significantly lower crowds than the non broadcast ones?

Re: 2021 members update : Thu Oct 14, 2021 5:23 pm  

I wonder if the club might worry about cannibalising ST sales if they did this.