Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:21 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

I have an impossible dream that one day we may be able to pick a team from a fit and healthy full squad.

This maybe hyperbole, but I genuinely think that the number of injuries in SL is one of the biggest issues the game in this country needs to address. Every team seems to have at least 4 or 5 of their first team players missing every week, lots of players hardly ever have a full pre season because they're recovering from a post season op. We need to do more to get players on the pitch as often as possible, simply dismissing it at 'injuries are part of the game' seems lazy to me.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:28 am  

Jack Burton wrote:

This maybe hyperbole, but I genuinely think that the number of injuries in SL is one of the biggest issues the game in this country needs to address. Every team seems to have at least 4 or 5 of their first team players missing every week, lots of players hardly ever have a full pre season because they're recovering from a post season op. We need to do more to get players on the pitch as often as possible, simply dismissing it at 'injuries are part of the game' seems lazy to me.

Fair comment, probably just my imagination ,but along with Hull we seem to suffer over the last few years more injuries than most clubs.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 11:45 am  

Backwoodsman wrote:

I don’t attach blame to anyone. As a former player (amateur) failed to make the professional grade. Things happen in the heat of the moment. Thought the sin bin was harsh, although a penalty was justified. If that’s the benchmark I am ok with that ,but that law has to apply consistently throughout the season. I doubt that Will happen, but we will shall see. Looking at the expression on Holmes’ face I think he thought he was on a red card. I await with interest to view the next Dwyer type situation and see what the referees decision will be.

The only semblance of consistency will come from the panel. In almost 50 years of watching the game, I've never seen 100% consistency from referee to referee. Often it's been far less. My guess is that some on field decisions will continue to baffle all but that most late or high shots will cop a ban once it goes before the panel. Not perfect by any means but I think it's as good as we'll get.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:02 pm  

Clearwing wrote:

The only semblance of consistency will come from the panel. In almost 50 years of watching the game, I've never seen 100% consistency from referee to referee. Often it's been far less. My guess is that some on field decisions will continue to baffle all but that most late or high shots will cop a ban once it goes before the panel. Not perfect by any means but I think it's as good as we'll get.

Should think what’s driving this latest clamp down on head shots is the growing amount of claims regarding early onset dementia and dementia itself. Obviously as employers both the club’s and rugby league have to show a duty of care to players. Quite obviously in the past this hasn’t happened. Rugby Union has also embarked on a similar course of action. The one major difference is the Union brigade ,have quite rightly clamped down on shoulder hits more severely than league . Seemed to be a few shoulder’s hits yesterday.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 12:55 pm  

Which makes the lack of attention the match officials gave to Currys shoulder, knocking Fusitua out, even more baffling. If Dwyers 'late' hit is a yellow, Currys is a Yellow, at least. All these rules and cards are to protect players yet the most significant head impact in the whole game goes unpunished, shocking imo.

As already mentioned, no issues with Bentleys red, thats on him, his stupidity was rightly punished and he cost his team.

[Frosties.]

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:06 pm  

What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 1:35 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.

I agree to some extent.
How on earth can he stop in mid air unless he manages to do what others do when chasing down the kicker by giving them a bear hug type of thing.
Probably deserved the yellow in the current climate but should not receive a ban.
Bentley will get 4-5 games considering his previous.
Currie should be citied and get a couple of games.
Against Wigan I think our efforts Saturday plus injuries/suspensions probably means we will lose.
Walker
Briscoe
Broadbent
Sutcliffe
Handley
Austin
Sezer
Oledzki if fit
Leeming
Prior
Gannon
Mellor
Smith

Dwyer hopefully
Tetavano
Thompson
Donaldson
If Dwyer is banned and Oledzki injured we have a real problem.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:23 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

Which makes the lack of attention the match officials gave to Currys shoulder, knocking Fusitua out, even more baffling. If Dwyers 'late' hit is a yellow, Currys is a Yellow, at least. All these rules and cards are to protect players yet the most significant head impact in the whole game goes unpunished, shocking imo.

As already mentioned, no issues with Bentleys red, thats on him, his stupidity was rightly punished and he cost his team.

Completely agree with this mate.

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:55 pm  

Frosties. wrote:

What I don’t understand is how a player is meant to pull out of a tackle they are already committed to, there should be some sort of time manner involved, it was half a second between Dwyer and the hit.

Exactly. Widdop was running across the line, Dwyer was chasing to tackle and when the ball was released, Dwyer was behind him and already getting ready to tackle. I'm all for stamping the late hits out the game (I got a bad whiplash from being hit after passing)....but....players have to tackle. The speed of the game means decisions are split second. There wasn't any malice in the tackle, wasn't massively mistimed. Just a bit late. When I saw the Bentley Red, I thought it harsh. But after watching it back it was a fair call. I still think the yellow was harsh for Dwyer

Re: SL RD 2 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sun Feb 13, 2022 3:22 pm  

I think a ban following a yellow is to act as a further deterrent. It isn’t a red card but they don’t want those tackles in the game so you will get a yellow and probably a ban for the next game. If you do that consistently then behaviours will change.
Those are the rules so follow them, it’s mindless to do it now.