: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:41 am  

Above & Beyond wrote:

look at the mess we got ourselves in to trying to keep Harris,

What mess? The reported £800,000 transfer fee we received or the unreported compensation we received from the Bulls when he came back? Both deals brokered by the man some posters on here have accused of bad management.

What mess did we get in with Harris Loz?

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:42 am  

DISA wrote:

Your missing the point Emma. You are not wrong from your point, but you are missing the point.

We now have 14 teams in Super League, and we want the quality to improve considerably. There is already a lack of quality players going around to accomodate those teams, to keep a good quality level playing field. Everybody wants to reduce overseas players, this places a further burden on the need for quality british players.

Why therefore not do anything as a game to ensure good quality british players are not lost to the game?

The RFL should in some way, maybe subsidise in salary cap for homegrown academy players (discussed previosly) to help us as a game not lose quality british players from Super League.

So who do you class as a 'quality' British player?? Someone who is first team SL???

Are you seriously saying that any player from any team in SL who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised by the RFL??? So a mediocre player who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised?

I know what you are saying about British players, but if a player wants to go and try the other code, he is going to. IMO I want players who want to play for my team, and for England, not players who have been swayed by money and are not enthusiastic about it.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:43 am  

DISA wrote:

Your missing the point Emma. You are not wrong from your point, but you are missing the point.

We now have 14 teams in Super League, and we want the quality to improve considerably. There is already a lack of quality players going around to accomodate those teams, to keep a good quality level playing field. Everybody wants to reduce overseas players, this places a further burden on the need for quality british players.

Why therefore not do anything as a game to ensure good quality british players are not lost to the game?

The RFL should in some way, maybe subsidise in salary cap for homegrown academy players (discussed previosly) to help us as a game not lose quality british players from Super League.

Thank you.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:45 am  

EmmaMur01 wrote:

So who do you class as a 'quality' British player?? Someone who is first team SL???

Are you seriously saying that any player from any team in SL who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised by the RFL??? So a mediocre player who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised?

I know what you are saying about British players, but if a player wants to go and try the other code, he is going to. IMO I want players who want to play for my team, and for England, not players who have been swayed by money and are not enthusiastic about it.

No. I am saying that any quality british player, possibly below a certain age, there should be some assistance to keep him in the game. That quality of course has to have some kind of measurement. But you can hardly argue on an International.

Possibly that help does not have to come direct in money terms from the RFL. It could be in the form on concessions on the salary cap for homegrown academy produced products. Therfore encouraging the use more of British players.

I dont have the answer, but the fact we now have 14 teams, and more players required to spread around, we should do all we can to stop people leaving the game.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:47 am  

Who the fuck is leaving or has left the game to cause this panick amongst those of you too dim to answer DoubleAone's question.

FFS!

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:47 am  

EmmaMur01 wrote:

So who do you class as a 'quality' British player?? Someone who is first team SL???

Are you seriously saying that any player from any team in SL who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised by the RFL??? So a mediocre player who is linked to RU should get their salary subsidised?

I know what you are saying about British players, but if a player wants to go and try the other code, he is going to. IMO I want players who want to play for my team, and for England, not players who have been swayed by money and are not enthusiastic about it.

I know what you are saying but you can't knock a player from wanting to secure thier future financially. Smith is one of our best talents at present who should only get better and the RFL should help keep him in the game.

They wouldn't be able to keep all the english players but should do everything in thier power tokeep their best talent.

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:48 am  

G1 wrote:

What mess? The reported £800,000 transfer fee we received or the unreported compensation we received from the Bulls when he came back? Both deals brokered by the man some posters on here have accused of bad management.

What mess did we get in with Harris Loz?

In the sense of the team structure when we lost him, I think the club IMO had a void to fill and to put a young Kevin Sinfield into the gap


yes the club benefited financially from Harris going

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:49 am  

Above & Beyond wrote:

In the sense of the team structure when we lost him, I think the club IMO had a void to fill and to put a young Kevin Sinfield into the gap

What a mess eh?



Am I just tired and grumpy or have the stupidity levels amongst you fekkwitts gone through the roof today?

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:50 am  

G1 wrote:

What a mess eh?



Am I just tired and grumpy or have the stupidity levels amongst you fekkwitts gone through the roof today?

tired and grumpy

maybe those hard working lasses in the gym can help you out

: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:50 am  

Above & Beyond wrote:

indeed


look at the mess we got ourselves in to trying to keep Harris, if Smith wants to go, release him. If he doesnt want to stay thats his mind made up

I would rather have a player fully commited than a player who be having his mind swayed by a carrot attached to a stick in front of his eyes

What £800k mess