Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 4:03 pm  

YosemiteSam wrote:

I like a bit of arrogance. When coupled with skill and talent, it's not a bad thing for the sport. We're in the entertainment business, are we not?

Yep, he’s great, the fact he winds opposition fans up is an added bonus, nonissue with the celebration or any of that stuff, the one thing he does need to temper is gobbing off at the officials.

Him winding Farrell up last night was great!

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 4:43 pm  

At times we are too impatient and try to score off every set. In the 1st half last night we tried some plays that were never on, instead of attempting a repeat set and keeping Wigan under pressure. I appreciate that is not Austins natural game but there are times we need someone to take control of the situation. Sneyd last week and Smith in the 1st half last night kept us pinned down with a class kicking game. Too often we have to kick from our own half but when we do get in the opposition 20 we panick, instead of keeping the pressure on.
Some great stuff in the 2nd half though. That's Wigan, Saints and Catalan beaten this season. On our day we can match it with anyone.

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:13 pm  

christopher wrote:

Yep, he’s great, the fact he winds opposition fans up is an added bonus, nonissue with the celebration or any of that stuff, the one thing he does need to temper is gobbing off at the officials.

Him winding Farrell up last night was great!

This is why the celebrating 20m out annoys me - it is just the opposite side of the same coin that makes him do and say things to the refs because he can’t understand however incredible he thinks he is, sometimes winding it in will help him achieve more.

He has great potential but hasn’t delivered it on a consistent basis without injury / suspension breaks over the last couple of years.

After 2-3 consistent years scoring / creating 20+ a year and playing most weeks, by all means do those things more - your status allows you a bit more scope for doing so.

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:43 pm  

Jamie101 wrote:

This is why the celebrating 20m out annoys me - it is just the opposite side of the same coin that makes him do and say things to the refs because he can’t understand however incredible he thinks he is, sometimes winding it in will help him achieve more.

He has great potential but hasn’t delivered it on a consistent basis without injury / suspension breaks over the last couple of years.

After 2-3 consistent years scoring / creating 20+ a year and playing most weeks, by all means do those things more - your status allows you a bit more scope for doing so.

Or that part of him, the confidence and even arrogance is what makes him the player he is or could be. To be fair to the lad he broke his leg and has some serious hamstring issues. When he plays we are a significantly better team and ever other side in the comp would love to have him in their team.

In terms of status, old school thinking that you need to be top of the tree to act like you are. Lots of younger players have that in them, I think it is often what makes them become the players they do.

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 8:55 pm  

Jamie101 wrote:

This is why the celebrating 20m out annoys me - it is just the opposite side of the same coin that makes him do and say things to the refs because he can’t understand however incredible he thinks he is, sometimes winding it in will help him achieve more.

He has great potential but hasn’t delivered it on a consistent basis without injury / suspension breaks over the last couple of years.

After 2-3 consistent years scoring / creating 20+ a year and playing most weeks, by all means do those things more - your status allows you a bit more scope for doing so.

He believes in himself and his ability. Confidence or arrogance, it's a fine line. Either is fine with me. Does he need to deliver, of course he does, but I really don't want to watch a game played by robots. Agree about winding his neck in with the officials, he won't win that battle and it will cost him and the team. If he was playing against us I'd probably have a different opinion. Either way it stirs up the emotions, which is why we love the sport, is it not?

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:41 pm  

My view on RS has not changed even after last nights performance . Being analytical , our first half performance was dire - same old errors , no line speed , no pressure on kicker, slow start to match again etc etc . So RS had not addressed any of our constant failings and he was again unable to motivate the team. If we had been up against a clinical attack , the game would have been over before half time.
The game turned on 2 things - one was the Newman intercept before half time and the other was Tets sending off - that is what motivated that team last night - nothing else.
Both these had absolutely nothing to do with our coach - and as long as he thinks all NRL coaches and all Super League coaches are wrong , and he is right , we have all seen what we are going to see on the field and if you follow the team every week , its not good enough.

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:49 pm  

Totally agree with Boots. Let's face it how many times do get three interceptions in a match !!!

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:54 pm  

Boots wrote:

My view on RS has not changed even after last nights performance . Being analytical , our first half performance was dire - same old errors , no line speed , no pressure on kicker, slow start to match again etc etc . So RS had not addressed any of our constant failings and he was again unable to motivate the team. If we had been up against a clinical attack , the game would have been over before half time.
The game turned on 2 things - one was the Newman intercept before half time and the other was Tets sending off - that is what motivated that team last night - nothing else.
Both these had absolutely nothing to do with our coach - and as long as he thinks all NRL coaches and all Super League coaches are wrong , and he is right , we have all seen what we are going to see on the field and if you follow the team every week , its not good enough.

Who would you prefer as coach?

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:55 pm  

LanzRhino68 wrote:

Totally agree with Boots. Let's face it how many times do get three interceptions in a match !!!

Gary Schofield used to manage it on a pretty regular basis. I'm sure when Rohan gets round to reading all the love letters on here he'll do the decent thing and resign. You hope.

Re: RD 12 | Wigan Warriors (A) : Sat May 13, 2023 9:57 pm  

LanzRhino68 wrote:

Totally agree with Boots. Let's face it how many times do get three interceptions in a match !!!

How many times does a coach take over a side in 11th in the table and take them to a GF?