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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:12 pm  
How are Leeds Utd better than the Rhinos? Didn't they just get relegated?
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 20, 2023 2:29 pm  
Yeah I'm not sure by what metric leeds united did better than the Rhinos this season.
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Tue Jun 20, 2023 4:02 pm  
it was about poor appointments in key jobs.
I.e. both had poop coaches
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Wed Jun 21, 2023 10:44 am  
tad rhino wrote:
it was about poor appointments in key jobs.
I.e. both had poop coaches


Did the Leeds United manager take them to a major final? Sorry for the ignorance, I don't follow soccer.
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Wed Jun 21, 2023 11:45 am  
I'll repeat myself one last time.
it was about the similarities of poor appointments in key positions.

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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Thu Jun 22, 2023 12:56 pm  
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We have the chance to genuinely improve the squad this off-season. We're lacking real quality and it will take years to develop internally (also no guarantee we'll develop stars in key positions despite investing in youth). This feels more like a 1997 style opportunity to revamp the squad by bringing in some players who will lift standards. Just like 1997 it will take money - both salaries and potentially fees. If we go cheap and cheerful I really don't think it will help (that Newcastle forward Fitzgibbon that's been mentioned is an utterly average NRL forward who will be solid but not much more).

When the Golden Generation came through they were supported by real quality from outside the club. The current crop of kids need the same.


If I remember rightly the players we brough in in the late 90's included Fleary, Farrell, Hay, Sheridan, Powell. All brought in on the cheap and all dumped just as thegolden generation were emerging leaving us with little choice but to bring through our own youngsters
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Sat Jun 24, 2023 9:43 pm  
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If I remember rightly the players we brough in in the late 90's included Fleary, Farrell, Hay, Sheridan, Powell. All brought in on the cheap and all dumped just as thegolden generation were emerging leaving us with little choice but to bring through our own youngsters

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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Sat Jun 24, 2023 10:08 pm  
not sure they were dumped. most simply got to the end of there careers and left. wasn't powell about 35 when we signed him? certainly wasn't young
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Sun Jun 25, 2023 12:47 am  
That list is odd. Powell was virtually retired when we signed him, and Farrell and Fleary weren't young either. Sheridan was a reasonably big signing at the time, and the list also ignores Harris, one of the biggest signings we've ever made. The squad was an utter mess when they took over, as we'd almost gone bankrupt, and GH also brought in a number of players who might not have been big signings but were desperately needed to boost the squad (including a bunch from Sheffield). I'm not sure what point they are trying to make?

Fact is when GH and Caddick took over in 1997 they started spending big, and also focused on junior development. At the same time. We continued to make big signings throughout most of the Golden Generation era, particularly from overseas.
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Re: RD 15 | Wakefield Trinity (A) : Sun Jun 25, 2023 6:42 pm  
Once were Loiners wrote:
That list is odd. Powell was virtually retired when we signed him, and Farrell and Fleary weren't young either. Sheridan was a reasonably big signing at the time, and the list also ignores Harris, one of the biggest signings we've ever made. The squad was an utter mess when they took over, as we'd almost gone bankrupt, and GH also brought in a number of players who might not have been big signings but were desperately needed to boost the squad (including a bunch from Sheffield). I'm not sure what point they are trying to make?

Fact is when GH and Caddick took over in 1997 they started spending big, and also focused on junior development. At the same time. We continued to make big signings throughout most of the Golden Generation era, particularly from overseas.

All factually correct but alas the "Big name players" are unattainable with the disparity in salary cap what we all need to understand is that our sport in the northern hemisphere is a poor relation to the southern hemisphere and for the politics it will ever be so, we have to get real and accept it for what it is.
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