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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:38 pm  
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Commentators praising Agar for managing to make a team that won 8 grand finals something other than relegation threatened stragglers.


That team is gone and was not suitably replaced.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:39 pm  
And I'm turning off as the circle jerk over Regan Grace gets going.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:39 pm  
gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:
Commentators praising Agar for managing to make a team that won 8 grand finals something other than relegation threatened stragglers.


Absolute twaddle the side Agar took over were not a tram yhat won 8 grand finals give your head a wobble
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:40 pm  
Shame to finish the season on such a shambolic performance, saints are good but we havnt given ourselves a chance, really, really, poor tonight..

Dont want yo be too down on them, proud of them making the playoffs after the disruption we'v had this season.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:41 pm  
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Shame to finish the season on such a shambolic performance, saints are good but we havnt given ourselves a chance, really, really, poor tonight..

Dont want yo be too down on them, proud of them making the playoffs after the disruption we'v had this season.


This ^ won’t stop the forum going into meltdown though ;-)
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:43 pm  
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Absolute twaddle the side Agar took over were not a tram yhat won 8 grand finals give your head a wobble


I never said he did. I probably should have used 'club' instead of 'team'. Just trying to make the obvious point as how far we've fallen and how low the bar is.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:44 pm  
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This ^ won’t stop the forum going into meltdown though ;-)



It's not meltdown. We lost badly and are upset. We like a moan, but we'll all be back next season.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:46 pm  
Though I'll keep the emotions in check the performance was no worse than last week to my mind. The difference was the opposition. Which is why I couldn't overly praise them v Wigan.

Hopefully those coming in next year move us forward but were still a couple of recruits short still.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:46 pm  
All the weaknesses of this team exposed tonight. Errors, poor discipline, poor basically handling, no composure and no pace. We're a few players off the required level, even with the signings we've made.
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Re: SL GF E | St Helens (A) : Fri Oct 01, 2021 8:47 pm  
gulfcoast_highwayman wrote:
I never said he did. I probably should have used 'club' instead of 'team'. Just trying to make the obvious point as how far we've fallen and how low the bar is.


Thank exactly what you said, a more true reflection is hes taken a team at the bottom of the table losing to a championship side in the CC to a CC win and a playoff Semi in 2 years.

Yes we should never have got to that position but to blame Agar is madness
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