Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:51 pm  

kjrhino wrote:

I hope to be proved wrong on both players. I don’t think Momirosvki has played much of a part in Handleys tries. Maybe one where he passed to him.

There is still some chaff to be cut from the squad, and I think we are still 3 quality players short of a great side. A back and 2 forwards. Defo missing a quality replacement/ backup for Fusitua and a couple of hard running forwards.

I know as the pitches form up we should get better but you have to be good in all weathers.

Its the partnership that has helped handley, how they defend and attack together. I bet if you asked Ash hed credit Mom.

The squad was never going to fixed in one off season and I don’t think even the most miserable of Leeds fans can say we recruited badly in the off season.

Your talking mg as if we've been bad in the rubbish weather, we haven’t far from it.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:55 pm  

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Ill judge him in a Leeds shirt not what he’s done before. If you think Sezer was good in a Leeds shirt if really question your judgement of a player TBH.

Frawley has been fine, he’s doing the job he’s been signed to do. Our completion rates so far (bar saints game) have been far hight than the last few years and that’s partly down to Frawley making sure he’s in the correct place at tge correct time, Sezer very rarely did that as he would drift in and out of games.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 4:55 pm  

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I agree Arthur.
He's going OK.
Everyone is judging him on his kicking, which has been really poor (including 2 out on the full).
But his passing is crisp and his defence looks reasonably solid.
He certainly gets more involved than Sezer ever did.
And the try against Leigh was classy.
He's not a superstar, but he was never signed as that.
An improvement on Sezer for me.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:25 pm  

Emagdnim13 wrote:

Frawley made some poor moves but hardly alone in that.

Hes no world beater but I think given how little Sezar offered and how much will have been used to pay/ sign Croft, Ackers, Miller, Mom and upgrade Newman etc it's not surprising.
By the end of his deal Sinfield etc will hopefully be looking more prepared to take over

I actually like parts of Frawley’s game; but I’m not sold on the “he wasn’t the only one” argument I’ve heard a couple of times recently. A Leeds #7 should be a really strong player in his own right, able to turn matches. I haven’t given up on Frawley like I said he has qualities; but he has to be finding better kicks out of hand if he’s going to be our main field kicker.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:27 pm  

christopher wrote:

Part of Frawleys remit will be to mentor Sinfield, Apparently Frawley is really good at that and is predicted to be a decent head coach in the future.

Sinfield big area for improvement is his D I think.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:29 pm  

kjrhino wrote:

I hope to be proved wrong on both players. I don’t think Momirosvki has played much of a part in Handleys tries. Maybe one where he passed to him.

There is still some chaff to be cut from the squad, and I think we are still 3 quality players short of a great side. A back and 2 forwards. Defo missing a quality replacement/ backup for Fusitua and a couple of hard running forwards.

I know as the pitches form up we should get better but you have to be good in all weathers.

Problem is that most of our competitors in the top half of the table will get better on firmer grounds too.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 5:31 pm  

christopher wrote:

Part of Frawleys remit will be to mentor Sinfield, Apparently Frawley is really good at that and is predicted to be a decent head coach in the future.

A poor man's Lee Briers then who by the way of talent was streets ahead of Frawley and is doing the same as a coach and he's British.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 6:53 pm  

christopher wrote:

Its the partnership that has helped handley, how they defend and attack together. I bet if you asked Ash hed credit Mom.

The squad was never going to fixed in one off season and I don’t think even the most miserable of Leeds fans can say we recruited badly in the off season.

Your talking mg as if we've been bad in the rubbish weather, we haven’t far from it.

The problem on here is some are over critical whilst others get a bit carried away , so far I can see a little in Frawley that will see him as far more consistent than Seizer whilst less talented , Mom has disappointed me so far but I am happy to give him time , he does seem to lack pace though .

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:14 pm  

KaeruJim wrote:

Problem is that most of our competitors in the top half of the table will get better on firmer grounds too.

We hear this ‘we’ll be ok on firmer grounds’ things a lot. Heard it last season. Were we? We need to perform now or we’ll be out of CC.

Re: RD 5 | St Helens (H) : Sun Mar 17, 2024 8:19 pm  

Shabino wrote:

We hear this ‘we’ll be ok on firmer grounds’ things a lot. Heard it last season. Were we? We need to perform now or we’ll be out of CC.

And we might win on Friday. You’re talking as if we’re playing like Hull FC.

Last two years weve had the worst possible draws in the first round of the CC if we lose it’s hardly like getting knocked out by Bradford