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: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:27 am  
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Unlike TVOC you don't appear to be able to discuss this in a grown up manner. He constructs a well thought out, articulate post and you jump from behind his coat tails spouting "ner ner ner ner, take that".

I'll continue to discuss this issue with him and leave you sucking on your drumstick lolly.


TVOC indulges you with all your attempts to dilute the argument when you get proven wrong. Maybe in the end thats all you want. Occupational hazard maybe.

Simple fact is our squad is light this year. TVOC and some others are realistic enough to see that.
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: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:54 am  
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TVOC indulges you with all your attempts to dilute the argument when you get proven wrong. Maybe in the end thats all you want. Occupational hazard maybe.

Simple fact is our squad is light this year. TVOC and some others are realistic enough to see that.
Most posters think the squad is light.
The question is where and how do you strengthen the squad.

In light of the fact that eastwood is supposedly signed for next year (whether he shows is a different matter) who do you sign?

The squad is strong enough at the moment without any long term injuries and there are a number of players out of contract at the end of the year. In terms of priotities I would put it as follows:

1 Decide whose contracts to extend and get them to sign.
2 Look for replacements for those above who you don't want to extend/won't sugn
3 Make signings to cover long term injuries
4 Sign a quality player who becomes available
5 Make a signing because the masses demand it.

Somewhere in that list there should also be:

Use academy/reserve players if they are/have the potential to be of the required quality
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: Sun Apr 05, 2009 11:48 pm  
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TVOC indulges you with all your attempts to dilute the argument when you get proven wrong.
What have I been proven wrong about?
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:03 pm  
Not enough go forward provided by the three prop rotation employed by McClennan on Sunday.

A pity he's being denied the fresh horsepower needed up front to match it in the big games this season.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:08 pm  
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Not enough go forward provided by the three prop rotation employed by McClennan on Sunday.

A pity he's being denied the fresh horsepower needed up front to match it in the big games this season.
A pity he either didn't chose Bailey or doesn't have the gumption to win with a 3 prop rotation like his predecessor did.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:15 pm  
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A pity he either didn't chose Bailey or doesn't have the gumption to win with a 3 prop rotation like his predecessor did.


A pity Bailey was not selected for this game. Troublesome groin injury officially. Kirke appeared to have fairly limited game time and I'm pretty sure I saw Jones-Buchanan packing the scrum at prop at one point in the second half.

I suppose they had to stick him somewhere inbetween his running the ball on the last brain fart and not facing the oppositions line when playing the ball.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:20 pm  
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I saw Jones-Buchanan packing the scrum at prop at one point in the second half.

I suppose they had to stick him somewhere inbetween his running the ball on the last brain fart and not facing the oppositions line when playing the ball.
Aye. A real shame how far back this lad looks to be going under Mclennan's tutilage. Still, sign a right centre and all in the garden will be rosy.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:27 pm  
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Aye. A real shame how far back this lad looks to be going under Mclennan's tutilage. Still, sign a right centre and all in the garden will be rosy.


Right centre is one of the positions Leeds needed to strengthen after last season certainly but there were other positions as well that needed looking at with cap, quota and wriggly space to dust off.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:30 pm  
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Right centre is one of the positions Leeds needed to strengthen after last season certainly but there were other positions as well that needed looking at with cap, quota and wriggly space to dust off.
Perhaps but looking at what Potter got out of his under-strength charges has Hetherington got the right to expect our Greatest Ever Coach* to get more out of what he has got?



*Mr Bywater and other positive/negative knee jerkers circa May/June 2008.
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: Mon Apr 06, 2009 11:39 pm  
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Perhaps but looking at what Potter got out of his under-strength charges has Hetherington got the right to expect our Greatest Ever Coach* to get more out of what he has got?



*Mr Bywater and other positive/negative knee jerkers circa May/June 2008.


I'd expect Leeds' turnover to be a multiple of St Helens and yet traditionally Leeds have underspent the cap as if there was some form of virtue in doing so.

If Hetherington were to actually spend the full allowance and give the coach more options, more competition for places then perhaps he'd appear to improve as a coach also.

Of course Potter has yet to win any silverwear but I wouldn't put it past him this season.
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