Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:29 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

as I said before it is easier to manage a business when cash flow isn't a major concern - I would suggest the issues around the development of the Southstand give an interesting view as to what the real issues are. Whilst you think this is just Hetherington postulating with the council I think this is a lack of cash - perhaps greater profitability would have enabled greater investment in a potentially lucrative revenue stream?

If you took the chance to speak to the architect during the public consultation or GH or Caddick generally you'll know that the club are genuinely upset about the limitations that have been placed on the development by the planning authorities. I just don't think money is a factor.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Fri Jun 17, 2011 9:50 pm  

Back to Burgess...from Gareth Jones (Radio Leeds) on twitter... http://twitter.com/#!/garethjones25/sta ... 6323468288

Back to Burgess...from Gareth Jones (Radio Leeds) on twitter... http://twitter.com/#!/garethjones25/sta ... 6323468288

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:06 am  

MjM wrote:

It involves a bit of deduction and being told where to look

Seen the quote in the intro - as I said too much wine last night.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:33 am  

MjM wrote:

If you took the chance to speak to the architect during the public consultation or GH or Caddick generally you'll know that the club are genuinely upset about the limitations that have been placed on the development by the planning authorities. I just don't think money is a factor.

Surely that would have been known at the time of the first design - why issue drawings that give one impression and then come out with a version 2 that is a massive disappointment to everyone.

I can understand why there has been no public comment about the planning regs. - the wider implications for Caddick's business.

The next set of accounts should be interesting - the drop in revenue could be significant especially if they don't make the CC final this year. Can't see the RU being in a position to reduce the 1.6m owed!! in fact you will most likely see this increase - profit on disposal has proved very useful.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 6:53 am  

craigizzard wrote: Back to Burgess...from Gareth Jones (Radio Leeds) on twitter... http://twitter.com/#!/garethjones25/sta ... 6323468288 Good to hear! From what I've been told let's hope burgess bucks his ideas up, puts some graft in on the training park and works his way back into the team before he jets off.

craigizzard wrote: Back to Burgess...from Gareth Jones (Radio Leeds) on twitter... http://twitter.com/#!/garethjones25/sta ... 6323468288 Good to hear! From what I've been told let's hope burgess bucks his ideas up, puts some graft in on the training park and works his way back into the team before he jets off.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:34 am  

Any idea where Luke would be heading to in the NRL? To me he would be a good buy, experience in big games i.e WCC, CC and ESL GF

Rumours here in OZ it won't be Souths

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:43 am  

Ant80 wrote:

Any idea where Luke would be heading to in the NRL? To me he would be a good buy, experience in big games i.e WCC, CC and ESL GF

Rumours here in OZ it won't be Souths

Newtown jets

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 7:54 am  

Sal Paradise wrote:

Surely that would have been known at the time of the first design - why issue drawings that give one impression and then come out with a version 2 that is a massive disappointment to everyone.

Having had the displeasure of dealing with Leeds CC planning authority on many occassions, I can assure you that having to significantly change proposals at the last minute, due to the whim of some jumped up elected know nowt, is not unusual.
In May 2006, we sat down with the entire panning committee and the senior planning officer for central Leeds to be given unanimous approval for a significant scheme at pre-planning stage. Six months later I was being told at the main committee meeting that the scheme looked "something out o' Costa Del Sol lad". Unless you've been there, you wouldn't believe it. Frankly, it is a wonder anything gets done round here and it looked a lot better than the derelict mess that sits on the site now.

Sal Paradise wrote:

I can understand why there has been no public comment about the planning regs. - the wider implications for Caddick's business.

Absolutely, the Architects and other professionals wouldn't be that keen on clearing their pitch either.

Sal Paradise wrote:

The next set of accounts should be interesting - the drop in revenue could be significant especially if they don't make the CC final this year. Can't see the RU being in a position to reduce the 1.6m owed!! in fact you will most likely see this increase - profit on disposal has proved very useful.

You seem to be overlooking the fact that we have just been through the worst recession for ninety years and to turn any kind of profit in a business reliant upon discretionary spending is quite an achievement.

Gh has his faults, if you go back to his days at Sheffield, his ability to appoint coaches has been questionable and to my mind, he's only got that decision absolutely right on one, possibly two, occassions. It would also appear that he works in an authoratarian manner and doesn't stand more than one big personality, namely his own. However, in comparison to other clubs and, more importantly the Leeds club of the past, youcan be nothing but, impressed by what he has achieved.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 10:44 am  

Ant80 wrote:

Any idea where Luke would be heading to in the NRL? To me he would be a good buy, experience in big games i.e WCC, CC and ESL GF

Rumours here in OZ it won't be Souths

Wyong Roos alongside Chris Feather.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:16 am  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

Wyong Roos alongside Chris Feather.

My thoughts exactly