Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:48 pm  

Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino wrote:

I’m sick and tired of the phrase “Rhinos DNA” and the constant harking back 5 years to 2017 for the hurrah of it and 7 years since the end of the ACTUAL “Rhinos DNA” is laughable.

These players need to create their own legacy and battle stories, shoving the exploits of players from 7+ years ago down their throats isn’t helping anyone or anything, leave that period where it belongs, in the past and unsullied.

exactly no dna it's a simple game where for a period a lot came together - players that could support a move and score, mags , burrow , webb , hardaker, wingers that can run hall , bai, calders , bishop, donald , centres that could break the line senior, watkins , sinfield's game management , peacock and kylie, couple of good hookers diskin buderus, quality 2nd row ellis , ali , ablett , throw in moon , cuthbo , delaney ,garbutt, parcell , young bailey , ward, smith

now we have a crocked walker, myler in an indian summer who may never have played fb, tindall with promise , brisoe should have left 5 yr ago , handley can run but needs a clear field , no centre other than newman who may keep breaking down , 4 overseas players yet to add anything an prior may be a season too far , big mick good but not as big as other teams big men , hookers average , no 2nd riow that can break line and bang average lf's an subs
the eye went off the ball signing wise from when we added the right quality player ellis , jp , buderus
walmsley was a big miss
some nowlike leeming an mellor looking good at huds are like the 80s getting players that looked good at wakefield but were a down grade for us

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 12:51 pm  

christopher wrote:

Between JJB elaborated pressers he did say they need to separate the wheat from the chaff it was obvious what he meant

finding wheat will be like finding a needle in a haystack

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 1:01 pm  

mattsrhinos1978 wrote:

JJB's presser, if that dosnt depress you as a Leeds fan, then nothing will.

Without knowing he was refering to a professional sports team, you would think he was talking about an u8's team, some of the 'fixes' mentioned should be the absolute bare minimum for any professional sports person

If what he's saying is right, its an absolute disgrace, our squad of players, coaches and management should be ashamed at the culture they've manifested. The coach of Leeds Rhinos happy that the players finally look bothered they're being embarrassed, happy they're finally trying, happy they're talking and asking questions of each other, happy he THINKS they're going to buy in to the fortnights hard work he's got planned, f**k sake...How have things got so bad that these, what should be, absolute unconditional basics, even in a kids team, be seen as progress in one of the biggest clubs in the country, absolutely pathetic.

When we signed donkeys like Donaldson and Thompson we were fed the lines on how they set standards around training,that they're great role models around the place etc etc, clearly total rubbish, our standards are mickey poor and embarrassing, again, if JJBS presser is correct.

He then finishes with telling us that he's always rated Liam Suttcliffe as a half, my god, please just go coach Stanningley and drop Long off as far away as possible on your way.

Anybody involved in this mess needs to be as far away from headingley as possible, players included.

Sorry for the long rant.

exactly re donno and thompson did a job for half a season but no way should have got extensions and part of the dor failings
sutcliffe hasn't been a decent half since he did his knee as when he can't run he certainly can't pass , the best quotes of players that played with holmes are how he could find them with any pass if they ran right-- who could sutcliffe find

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 4:20 pm  

No problem with Donaldson's commitment to the team. He's not even a first choice player and has plenty in front of him. He's probably getting picked because he's the JJB of our current squad!

Thompson on the other hand is more concerning given he's taking a valuable quota space. Unlike Donaldson, I can't think of a game in which Thompson's efforts have resoundingly justified his inclusion in the first 17.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:07 pm  

Exeter Rhino wrote:

No problem with Donaldson's commitment to the team. He's not even a first choice player and has plenty in front of him. He's probably getting picked because he's the JJB of our current squad!

Thompson on the other hand is more concerning given he's taking a valuable quota space. Unlike Donaldson, I can't think of a game in which Thompson's efforts have resoundingly justified his inclusion in the first 17.

JJB was raving about Thompson in the latest presser!

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:20 pm  

Precisely. He’s either telling his true opinion in which case he’s nuts, or he’s fibbing and looks daft in front of everyone.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Sun Apr 03, 2022 6:48 pm  

I think eccentric is a better description.
either way he should be nowhere near the coaching staff

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:04 am  

Seth wrote:

After 5 years of sh 1t it's just depressing to be even worse and looking ahead to relegation scraps. Like everyone I'm just pis sed at the people who have overseen this.

Yep. To get this bad from where we were would seem to be more difficult and take more effort than staying at, or near the top. It's like we put a failure plan in place and executed it perfectly.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:31 am  

For the first time in his stewardship of the club i really feel Hetherington is under huge pressure now, he has to get this next appointment and subsequent recuritment right... it's not good enough.

Re: SL RD 7 | St Helens (H) : Mon Apr 04, 2022 11:41 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

For the first time in his stewardship of the club i really feel Hetherington is under huge pressure now, he has to get this next appointment and subsequent recuritment right... it's not good enough.

I totally agree. GH, as we all know, has been great for Leeds but hes now under huge pressure to show he can still get things right.