Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:31 am  

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3494629 Now if biff is being honest then I think GH has acted like a total doosh and put his ego before the team! If biff is thinking about Aus 3 days is nowt! I've heard different stories but I have no reason to think biff would lie.

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... _1_3494629 Now if biff is being honest then I think GH has acted like a total doosh and put his ego before the team! If biff is thinking about Aus 3 days is nowt! I've heard different stories but I have no reason to think biff would lie.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:41 am  

sgtwilko wrote:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds_rhinos_i_will_fight_for_a_start_burgess_exclusive_1_3494629

Now if biff is being honest then I think GH has acted like a total doosh and put his ego before the team!

If biff is thinking about Aus 3 days is nowt!

I've heard different stories but I have no reason to think biff would lie.

Wow!! - if this is true, and we have no reason to believe otherwise, GH has made himself look like a power crazed petty little man who seems more interested in protecting his own image that the well being of the club.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:44 am  

Fat Boy wrote:

Wow!! - if this is true, and we have no reason to believe otherwise, GH has made himself look like a power crazed petty little man who seems more interested in protecting his own image that the well being of the club.

Yeah that's how it reads mate! Hope you and the family are well!

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:47 am  

sgtwilko wrote:

Yeah that's how it reads mate! Hope you and the family are well!

All good here mate - how's the sunshine and barbies?

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:55 am  

Fat Boy wrote:

All good here mate - how's the sunshine and barbies?

Yeah good thanks! Weather isn't the best but it's winter, I went to the shops in shorts and t-shirt today and wasn't cold so can't complain. Went to first origin in the week! It was awesome. The fans are a bit quiet compared to the UK but it was a great night.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 11:59 am  

sgtwilko wrote:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds_rhinos_i_will_fight_for_a_start_burgess_exclusive_1_3494629

Now if biff is being honest then I think GH has acted like a total doosh and put his ego before the team!

If biff is thinking about Aus 3 days is nowt!

I've heard different stories but I have no reason to think biff would lie.

Sorry, but that is nonsense.
If Burgess was waiting for an offer from the Rhinos before deciding if he wanted to go to Oz then more fool him.
Either he wants to go or he doesn't, put up or shut up.
Others have moaned about GH taking time to recruit overseas. If as has been stated, time is of the essence, then he needs to know which positions he's looking to strengthen. He can't then wait for one of his OOC players to spend ages making his mind up.
How long should he have given Burgess, 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months?
You can't run a business along such uncertain lines.
I'm sorry to see Burgess go when he did seem to be making progress but it does seem to me that he wanted to have his cake & eat it.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:09 pm  

Old Feller wrote:

Sorry, but that is nonsense.
If Burgess was waiting for an offer from the Rhinos before deciding if he wanted to go to Oz then more fool him.
Either he wants to go or he doesn't, put up or shut up.
Others have moaned about GH taking time to recruit overseas. If as has been stated, time is of the essence, then he needs to know which positions he's looking to strengthen. He can't then wait for one of his OOC players to spend ages making his mind up.
How long should he have given Burgess, 3 days, 3 weeks, 3 months?
You can't run a business along such uncertain lines.
I'm sorry to see Burgess go when he did seem to be making progress but it does seem to me that he wanted to have his cake & eat it.

If GH can't now recruit a better option the Burgess then he's going to end up looking a bit silly.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:14 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

http://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/sport/rugby-league/leeds-rhinos/leeds_rhinos_i_will_fight_for_a_start_burgess_exclusive_1_3494629

Now if biff is being honest then I think GH has acted like a total doosh and put his ego before the team!

If biff is thinking about Aus 3 days is nowt!

I've heard different stories but I have no reason to think biff would lie.

I suspect that GH will be absolutely steaming with rage over the publication of that article given his usual level of editorial control over anything that Peter Smith of the YEP publishes about the club

It's a fairly damning indictment of GH's bullying negotiation style which has always been apparent to anyone who is open-minded about him as opposed to placing him on a lofty pedestal and deeming him as beyond critique.

Assuming Burgess can't secure an early release from his contract so that he can leave immediately (which would clearly be the ideal solution for both player and club given the obvious rift), he needs to avoid any further confrontation, see out his contract to the end of the season and not allow GH any opportunity for litigation or further egotistical and vindictive response.

What a sad and disappointing end to his career at the club.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:19 pm  

Keith Swiftcorn wrote:

What a sad and disappointing end to his career at the club.

Yep totally.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Sat Jun 18, 2011 12:32 pm  

sgtwilko wrote:

Yeah good thanks! Weather isn't the best but it's winter, I went to the shops in shorts and t-shirt today and wasn't cold so can't complain. Went to first origin in the week! It was awesome. The fans are a bit quiet compared to the UK but it was a great night.

Attended a couple of Origin games myself in the past... in Brisbane and Sydney... crowd atmosphere-wise, that's as good as it gets over there. Lots of piss-artistry and shouting from spectators over there but only on an individual or insignificant and isolated small group basis. Culturally, RL fans over there don't exhibit the same mass co-ordinated behaviour that we do to create a genuine atmosphere at games.

Aussie Rules however? Different kettle of fish entirely atmosphere-wise. Absolutely awesome.