Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Thu Jan 07, 2021 5:59 pm  

Bang wrote:

Wonder if we're looking at some options from rugby union?

What makes you think that? Can’t see it at all personally just because it’s a totally different game being a prop in union

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:12 pm  

Bang wrote:

Wonder if we're looking at some options from rugby union?

if scrums ever come back and want to win one against the feed ?

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:26 am  

Trebor1 wrote:

What makes you think that? Can’t see it at all personally just because it’s a totally different game being a prop in union

Agree it is totally different, however if you were looking at a Union player to play prop then it would probably be a number 8 or back row player. Physically they would be the best fit for the size and speed required to play league. Personally i think if you wanted to transition playing prop in league wouldn’t be overly difficult to pick up.

Another poster mentioned being slow. Not sure I agree on that, some of the back row players would easily have the speed, ball carrying and tackling ability to do league. However, strongly agree you wouldn’t be able to attract a top Union player to come and play league. You earn more in Union, the international game if you are at that level isn’t even comparable and you probably live in the south or London and wouldn’t want to move to the north. Sale sharks and Newcastle falcons being the only two Prem clubs in the north.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 6:12 am  

I'm just asking the questions. That's why I'm here.

Hey! I'm just putting it out there. Just putting it out there - creating debate yeah?

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:36 am  

Bang wrote:

I'm just asking the questions. That's why I'm here.

Hey! I'm just putting it out there. Just putting it out there - creating debate yeah?

Yeah that’s absolutely fair enough I personally was just asking if you’d heard anything that’s all.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 7:39 am  

Lprhino wrote:

Agree it is totally different, however if you were looking at a Union player to play prop then it would probably be a number 8 or back row player. Physically they would be the best fit for the size and speed required to play league. Personally i think if you wanted to transition playing prop in league wouldn’t be overly difficult to pick up.

Another poster mentioned being slow. Not sure I agree on that, some of the back row players would easily have the speed, ball carrying and tackling ability to do league. However, strongly agree you wouldn’t be able to attract a top Union player to come and play league. You earn more in Union, the international game if you are at that level isn’t even comparable and you probably live in the south or London and wouldn’t want to move to the north. Sale sharks and Newcastle falcons being the only two Prem clubs in the north.

Agree an 8 would be best suited. I remember back in my late teens I played both codes for a few years and one lad I played with in union was brilliant as a forward funnily enough as an 8 but he was really poor at League. He just couldn’t going which was such a surprise to me as he was so so good at union. Just a personal experience of mine

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:10 am  

I agree I've played prop in rugby union and would be nowhere near the pace for rugby league we are strong for scrums and line outs rucks and mauls but no where near the pace for league.
You would need a back rower anywhere from 6,7,8 joshua tuisova would be a good person to see in league youtube him.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 8:36 am  

improvise wrote:

I agree I've played prop in rugby union and would be nowhere near the pace for rugby league we are strong for scrums and line outs rucks and mauls but no where near the pace for league.
You would need a back rower anywhere from 6,7,8 joshua tuisova would be a good person to see in league youtube him.

Yes Tuisova is an incredible player. In terms of the back rower I would want in a dream scenario it would be Peceli Yato from Clermont who is also Fijian. Just the money involved is ridiculous, especially if you play Union in France where the salary cap is fantasy land.

I know there are a fair number of Fijian born players playing in the NRL. We could always look at some younger Fijian players to come over but they would need to learn the game so always a risk. Interestingly do Leeds have any history with Fijian players? I know some people have really good knowledge of historical teams and players for Leeds

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 12:39 pm  

I think any Union player who would be fit enough to play in the middles at league would simply be out of reach salary wise. Also with the odd exception only backs manage the transition to league. Having played prop at Union I could not hack it when I played odd few games of league and that was when league was so much slower than today.
I think people forget how much more technical Union is in the forwards with proper scrums and line outs. Generally Union is played by bigger men, these days even scrum halves can be 6 ft and 15 stone. It’s basically a different game so crossover is not easy either way.

Re: Transfer Talk / Rumour Thread V3 : Fri Jan 08, 2021 2:12 pm  

Its a completely different game in the forwards. While in principle both games are professional and levels of overall fitness should not be an issue the forwards role is hugely different in each game. In union for the majority of forwards it is size strength and technique in scrums mauls and rocks that is important. If you carry the ball into contact 10 times and make 15 tackles this would be called outstanding workmate.
In League this could be 20 hit ups and over 40 tackles every week for the top performers. In principle it could be done and there would perhaps be some eye-catching carries from a big union convert but how many gaps would be left when they failed to complete repetition tackles or get back in the correct place in the defensive line quick enough. If you are looking to union try and get the talent young and allow a couple of years development similar to how oledski has learnt the game from scratch but not as a ready made fix in a specialist position