: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:20 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

You don't consider the end of winter rugby and the start of summer rugby as the end of an era ?

What about using the month of October from any given year as a relevant period.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:23 pm  

Reasons why people dislike Saints in the modern era.

1. Saints have finished as champions more than any other.

2. Saints have won the Challenge Cup more than any other.

3. Saints have finished top of the pile more than any other.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:26 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

Reasons why people dislike Saints in the modern era.

1. Saints have finished as champions more than any other.

2. Saints have won the Challenge Cup more than any other.

3. Saints have finished top of the pile more than any other.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:27 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

Reasons why people dislike Saints in the modern era.

1. Saints have finished as champions more than any other.

2. Saints have won the Challenge Cup more than any other.

3. Saints have finished top of the pile more than any other.

You do realise with an unbalanced fixture list that finishing top is neither here nor there??
Also winning championships carries more prestige when you do it without cheating!!

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:29 pm  

G1 wrote:

I actually agree with this.

I don't think theres any doubt that if Saints had turned up for the previous 2 Grand Finals then we'd have won the double for the past 3 seasons. We didn't and consequently Leeds can revel in the most successful period of their history.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:32 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

I actually agree with this.

I don't think theres any doubt that if Saints had turned up for the previous 2 Grand Finals then we'd have won the double for the past 3 seasons. We didn't and consequently Leeds can revel in the most successful period of their history.

There's also little doubt if catalan dragons,huddersfield giants and more recently hull fc had turned up in their respective cup finals they'd all have a challenge cup in their cabinet after making you "choke" in their finals aswell!!

[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:34 pm  

This is a top thread, you wouldnt find this kind of.. erm.. "Banter" on the "Mighty S" boards with its clinical censoring of anything slightly anti saints, kudos to you all and viva les mods.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:39 pm  

Stirlingshire Saint wrote:

Wigan and their trophy record is the benchmark in the game. One day Saints should reach it, unless a miracle happens and Wigan get competitive.

Using the usual measures of Championships, Challenge Cups, Premierships, RT/JP, Floodlit, Lancashire, Yorkshire and World Club Championships:

Wigan have won 70 Trophies
St Helens have won 44
Leeds have won 41
and
Bradford have won 34

Rather than chasing the much more successful Wigan you'd be better served trying to hang onto 2nd.

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:44 pm  

tvoc wrote:

Using the usual measures of Championships, Challenge Cups, Premierships, RT/JP, Floodlit, Lancashire, Yorkshire and World Club Championships:

Wigan have won 70 Trophies
St Helens have won 44
Leeds have won 41
and
Bradford have won 34

Rather than chasing the much more successful Wigan you'd be better served trying to hang onto 2nd.

Are hubcaps, lazenby trophies and tetleys festive challenges and other such important trophies included?

: Fri Mar 20, 2009 2:45 pm  

leicester_rhino wrote:

Are hubcaps, lazenby trophies and tetleys festive challenges and other such important trophies included?

That's the pinnicle in st.helens!!