: Sun May 17, 2009 9:07 am  

LS16 Rhino wrote:

Don’t often hear what Mr Clarke has to say about Leeds TBH but I’ve always thought he’s not a bad summariser (albeit being heavily Wigan bias)

It’s Tweedle Dumb and Tweedle Dumber who fill the commentary with inane ramblings and need replacing ASAP.

Thats my take on it.

: Sun May 17, 2009 11:16 am  

I can't stand the guy. Not for any supposed "anti Leeds" bias but more for his insistence on reeling off banal, irrelevant "statistics". It's dull, tedious and not necessary.

His comments after the Grand Final were out of order however. For a team that supposedly "doesn't cheat" to both be in breach of the salary cap and at the centre of an RFL edict regarding player behaviour towards referees, it doesn't really say much for the rest of the league.

: Sun May 17, 2009 12:09 pm  

Snake Eater wrote:

Oh my god, are you ever going to let that drop, you're the idiot if you actually think I'm a saints fan.

I pretended to be a saints fan like a year ago to jinx them and exagerate the cockyness and wankathons they have over their team and you never shut up about it.

Course you did. Its' why you backed Saints to the tune of £50 against US in the grand Final.

: Sun May 17, 2009 12:23 pm  

G1 wrote:

Course you did. Its' why you backed Saints to the tune of £50 against US in the grand Final.

I knew if i bet against my own team it would be bad karma and i would be punished by losing my money.

I sacrificed my own money for the team.

: Sun May 17, 2009 12:26 pm  

Snake Eater wrote:

I knew if i bet against my own team it would be bad karma and i would be punished by losing my money.

I sacrificed my own money for the team.

Good for you.

Shame its' BS.

You were acting like a lover all last year both to Leeds fans and Saints fans. If that's what gets you off then great. I called you on your tw@ttishness not expecting you to have the cahones to take the bet. fair play, i backed you into a corner and you didn't bottle it.

But you still lost the £50 together with what little shred of cerdibility you ever had (if any) on here for good.

: Sun May 17, 2009 12:56 pm  

Puig-Aubert wrote:

Thats my take on it.

I'd be surprised if Clarke had any loyalty left towards Wigan after they sacked both himself and his father at different times in the past.

Clarke loves good, expansive rugby league and he sees that most with St Helens. I don't think it goes any deeper than that. I don't think he particularly dislikes Leeds he just prefers Saints and doesn't bother hiding it.

Got to love the statistics though.

: Sun May 17, 2009 1:07 pm  

Aside from all the one-eyed supporter nonsense, the only thing that is actually tiring is when commentators don't give credit where credit is due.

He may well think that St Helens have, over the full course of the previous two seasons, played what was in his opinion the most enjoyable rugby to watch, but when it came to the crunch they weren't good enough - they were beaten by a better team effort on the occasions that mattered most.

That's the nature of how sport works, and as a neutral commentator he ought to acknowledge this rather than appearing dissapointed in the result.

: Sun May 17, 2009 4:04 pm  

The partisan nature of the SKY team seems to me to be becoming more pronounced. Watching the Warrington vs Hull match last night all bar Barrie seemed really disappointed that Warrington had come through to win. I was highly impressed by the Warrington forwards in the second half, especially Carvell and Morley. I thought that was first class rugby but didn't get the credit that it deserved. I think it is time for the coverage to have an option to have the commentary turned off with perhaps a directional mike towards the referee. Tweedle dee and tweedle dum just irritate me now, they get more excited about shirt colours and referee decisions than the game. They are full of the same cliches week after week. I genuinely enjoy Barrie and Terry O'Connors' comments as they seem much more grounded and understanding of the players viewpoints.

: Mon May 18, 2009 7:27 am  

bramleyrhino wrote:

I can't stand the guy. Not for any supposed "anti Leeds" bias but more for his insistence on reeling off banal, irrelevant "statistics". It's dull, tedious and not necessary.

Well said

: Mon May 18, 2009 8:08 am  

G1 wrote:

Good for you.

Shame its' BS.

You were acting like a lover all last year both to Leeds fans and Saints fans. If that's what gets you off then great. I called you on your tw@ttishness not expecting you to have the cahones to take the bet. fair play, i backed you into a corner and you didn't bottle it.

But you still lost the £50 together with what little shred of cerdibility you ever had (if any) on here for good.

You backed me into a corner? I asked for the bet, not you. It's just you were the only one who would take me up on the offer, no one else would.