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| It is the last overseas signing this season, but we are looking at someone who can cover McGuire, and would be classed as home grown fwir.
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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."It is the last overseas signing this season, but we are looking at someone who can cover McGuire, and would be classed as hone grown fwir.'"
So which of Kyle Briggs or Luke Gale is that then?
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| So how would you have your pack next year? Oh, I think it's a good signing fwiw.
Bailey
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IMO that's a pretty good pack, bench and set of reserves.
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| So who gets the nod to start the season ahead of Peacock out of that lot - Burgess, Ambler, Kirke or Amor?
Personally I'd go Ambler - doesn't have the upside of some of the others but neither does he have the glaring deficiencies.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"So who gets the nod to start the season ahead of Peacock out of that lot - Burgess, Ambler, Kirke or Amor?
Personally I'd go Ambler - doesn't have the upside of some of the others but neither does he have the glaring deficiencies.'"
Isn't Ambler on loan with Harlequins this year?
Burgess will probably be given a "last chance".
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| Ambler at Quins for the season so don't count him, Cross to cover Peacock until his return. Kirke or Burgess for the last spot on the bench.
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| Quote Harrigan="Harrigan"So how would you have your pack next year? Oh, I think it's a good signing fwiw.
Bailey
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Sinfield
Leuluai
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Lauitiiti
Hauraki
Burgess
Kirke
Clarkson
Pitts
Ambler
Amor
Stewart
IMO that's a pretty good pack, bench and set of reserves.'"
That's a massive bench.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"So who gets the nod to start the season ahead of Peacock out of that lot - Burgess, Ambler, Kirke or Amor?
Personally I'd go Ambler - doesn't have the upside of some of the others but neither does he have the glaring deficiencies.'"
Actually it's just dawned on me. Amblers gone to Quins this year hasn't he. In that case I'd take Burgess. Also it Ablett to loose and Hauraki staring while Sinny covers 6. Clarkson on the bench.
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| Quote Frosties.="Frosties."It is the last overseas signing this season, but we are looking at someone who can cover McGuire, and would be classed as home grown fwir.'"
I will be shocked if Leeds are not at least giving a trial in preseason to Paul Cooke. He's certainly proved himself to be a dipstick, but the talent is there. A preseason trial would not be a bad thing.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I will be shocked if Leeds are not at least giving a trial in preseason to Paul Cooke. He's certainly proved himself to be a dipstick, but the talent is there. A preseason trial would not be a bad thing.'"
He's not been able to deliver that talent on the field on anything like a consistent basis since he left Hull FC though Gotcha.
If he had, then that idea might have legs. I'm struggling to see how a move to Leeds would suddenly turn around a career that is in terminal decline.
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| Quote kirkstaller="kirkstaller"That's a massive bench.'"
Haven't we just!
We have a mobile starting pack to tire out the opposition forwards and a strong set on the bench to punch holes in the 2nd part of the halfs. We also have depth to mix things around if needed.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I will be shocked if Leeds are not at least giving a trial in preseason to Paul Cooke. He's certainly proved himself to be a dipstick, but the talent is there. A preseason trial would not be a bad thing.'"
he will have to become a totally different person for this to happen. cant see him anywhere near leeds even if he was playing for free
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I will be shocked if Leeds are not at least giving a trial in preseason to Paul Cooke. He's certainly proved himself to be a dipstick, but the talent is there. A preseason trial would not be a bad thing.'"
Signed for Bradford afaik.
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| Quote Gotcha="Gotcha"I will be shocked if Leeds are not at least giving a trial in preseason to Paul Cooke. He's certainly proved himself to be a dipstick, but the talent is there. A preseason trial would not be a bad thing.'"
Please dont post such barmy statements again please.
We have a Damo for such matters.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"He's not been able to deliver that talent on the field on anything like a consistent basis since he left Hull FC though Gotcha.
If he had, then that idea might have legs. I'm struggling to see how a move to Leeds would suddenly turn around a career that is in terminal decline.'"
It's fair enough, but that was why I said preseason rather than the actual season. It would then be up to him to prove himself again.
Just to clarify though, I don't like the guy and under different circumstances I would say stay well clear. But Leeds are obviously seeking a short term option and one preferably cheap enough. At the end of the day he's certainly proved himself a match winner before, so can he satisfy that option.
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In terms of temperament, he's not the type of player we'd touch with a barge pole these days IMO.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"Underwhelming.
Seems to be a trend with Leeds recently when it comes to overseas signings.'"
GH is a very clever man!
Just look at it this way, we won the league 3 years in a row without breaking the Salary Cap. We rely on our Rugby knowledge to sign good quality players. Not just signing the "Big Name" at the time we happen to be in the market.
It hasn't done us any harm at all signing what are considered to be "Underwhelming" "No Name" players. We're a squad, so we've signed a squad player. If we were a team built around a star, we'd have signed a star.
As mentioned elsewhere, he's not a "Bums on Seats" singing, but I think he's a great pick-up, and hopefully will be good value for money. I'm willing to put my whole trust and faith in GH & Co. as up to now, they've done nothing at all to suggest I should be doubting their ability to run our club.
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| Believe in the sleeve!!! 
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| Quote Harrigan="Harrigan"Signed for Bradford afaik.'"

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| Quote sgtwilko="sgtwilko"why arnt you using any of them? to be honest lima is rocks or diamonds, finch is a ham and eggs NRL half back good but not spectacular. not good enough the make the origin shirt his own. hoffman is as good as any backrower in the world so fair do's on that signing. but a new contract for carmont? with phelps roberts, richards, tommy,finch? cant you produce any backs?'"
Phelps has left. As for producing backs Sam Tomkins and Goulding both featured for England and we have Stefan Marsh and Josh Charnley pushing for the first team but at the minute young and still much to prove but will get game time this season. Ainscough another we produced but deemed surpless to requirements and with the lack of interest in his signing seems was the right decision. Bradford hardly had to fight anyone for his signiture apart from Widnes.
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| McDermott's first signing is an average back-rower.
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| Sky Sports Website has Hauraki as only missing the Opening game of the season last year.
That's a good sign.
That also means that playing against Leeds he has a 100%, played 1, won 1 record. (Eat your heart out TVOC!) 
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| Quote Bill_Barlow="Bill_Barlow"Phelps has left. As for producing backs Sam Tomkins and Goulding both featured for England and we have Stefan Marsh and Josh Charnley pushing for the first team but at the minute young and still much to prove but will get game time this season. Ainscough another we produced but deemed surpless to requirements and with the lack of interest in his signing seems was the right decision. Bradford hardly had to fight anyone for his signiture apart from Widnes.'"
That was my point! RG was been mischievous on here having a go about leeds overseas signings and our academy. If you check my earlier post i mentioned marsh and charnely so why keep carmont? Of course Tomkins is a belter, I don't rate goulding but can see he had a good season. rouges was hinting at Leeds academy not producing. Wigan have a great academy but still have 5 overseas backs and have resigned deacon Who will be 32 at the start of the season. your starting halfbacks finch/deacon will have a combined age of 62? Not great for a team boasting the best academy around is it? My point is rogues was having a troll, it was pretty weak as his own club can be picked at quite easy. you can spin the academy/overseas thing many ways.
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| Brett Finch is 29, and has played S.O.O.
Deacon played about 50% of the games last season, and will more than likely do the same again next year.
Wigan team was younger than Leeds last season, and will be again in 2011
Carmonts extra year was automatically triggered by the number of games he played in 2010.
Wigan have seven players in the England U18 academy squad to face Australia in a couple of weeks time, how many are there from Leeds?
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