Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 10:57 am  

Start like we have again next week against a motivated wigan side and it could get nasty and there'll be much more gnashing on here.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:10 am  

Yep I found myself thinking on Thursday ‘Great, just in time for us to catch a Wigan backlash.’

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:18 am  

tad rhino wrote:

that was then, this is now.
it's a shambles, and a lot is down to him

Yup.

Remember Hull? After the first 2 games they went on a massive losing run. For many weeks only Wakefield were below them.

They are now 2 points behind us.

If you drop a frog in boiling water it jumps straight out. Put it in cold water and heat it up, it slowly boils to death.

After the end of last season, if you’d dropped us straight into this scenario we’d immediately realise we were in hot water, that Smith isn’t working.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:32 am  

FlexWheeler wrote:

Yup.

Remember Hull? After the first 2 games they went on a massive losing run. For many weeks only Wakefield were below them.

They are now 2 points behind us.

If you drop a frog in boiling water it jumps straight out. Put it in cold water and heat it up, it slowly boils to death.

After the end of last season, if you’d dropped us straight into this scenario we’d immediately realise we were in hot water, that Smith isn’t working.

Would you say Tony Smith is ‘working’ at hull or Paul Wellens at Saints?

You e just described a Hull side that looked clueless and far worse than us whi now seem to have turned that around, were 4 points of 4th place with over half the season to go, a lot can happen in that time.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:47 am  

Christopher it's not where we are or points were on its the glaring ineptitude of the performances. Ie we could have lost by the same margin last night but with positive signs.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:51 am  

Seth wrote:

Christopher it's not where we are or points were on its the glaring ineptitude of the performances. Ie we could have lost by the same margin last night but with positive signs.

That’s my point about Hull, who you yourself mentioned, things can change within a season.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 11:54 am  

Which is why I said after Thurs that I'd want to see that intensity from us, we didn't. And worse still it just looks like Smith fully believes in a way of playing that bypasses the rolling up your sleeves stuff and putting the opposition under pressure. That's why I worry that it won't turn around.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 12:03 pm  

christopher wrote:

That’s my point about Hull, who you yourself mentioned, things can change within a season.

Interested to know Chris.
If we continue like we are and finish 9th this season.
Do you still think this is a long term project and we should continue with Smith?

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 12:28 pm  

Seth wrote:

Which is why I said after Thurs that I'd want to see that intensity from us, we didn't. And worse still it just looks like Smith fully believes in a way of playing that bypasses the rolling up your sleeves stuff and putting the opposition under pressure. That's why I worry that it won't turn around.

It’s either his plan, or he’s not able to get the players to keep to the plan. Neither of which would be ringing endorsements.

Re: Where do we go from here : Sat May 06, 2023 12:33 pm  

it's definitely his plan. he is, like bielsa was, totally intrenched in his ideals, and refuses to waver or adapt, despite its obvious failings.