Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 7:43 am  

HullKR21 wrote:

Thought you looked really poor in the friendly at our place earlier this year. Don’t read much into them so took it with a pinch of salt, however don’t think you’ve looked great these opening 7 rounds either (second half catalan apart). As you showed last year, there’s still plenty of time to turn it around though. Must say as an outsider I really don’t like Rohan Smith. His chopping and changing on and off the field comes across arrogant as anything, and a lot of the time seems like he’s trying to be different for the sake of it. I’m sure with Mik coming back and Newman on the pitch you’ll pick up again though, however I do think you look a mid table side at best this year.

Think a bit of respect has to be paid to Rovers. Abdull has now played 4 games and 10 mins of Catalan before he went off injured, he’ll be on 12 MOS points after this week. Previous posts comparing our spines, I’d probably take Oledski, Newman, Smith and Martin from the Leeds team and that’s it. Maybe macdonald at a push. I think the weather played a big factor in the score line not being as big as it should have been. You could hardly make yards all night. Willie Peters is building something special at Rovers at the minute, but it continues to be going under the radar. I don’t mind it that way in fairness.

Good post mate. Agree with you.
I get that comparing players is completely subjective and pretty pointless.
But the point I was trying to make is about the difference in current performance level.
If we forget about the result/performance on Friday, forget current form and forget the last 7 games.
At the beginning of the season if we'd asked how many of that starting HKR 17 would I take in the Leeds starting 17.
For me it would have been 2 - Abdul and Coote.
You could probably make an argument for 3 or 4.
So my point is, and the problem is - Leeds are underperforming.
HKR are performing very well - and good luck to you!

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 8:54 am  

Simmo71 wrote:

Good post mate. Agree with you.
I get that comparing players is completely subjective and pretty pointless.
But the point I was trying to make is about the difference in current performance level.
If we forget about the result/performance on Friday, forget current form and forget the last 7 games.
At the beginning of the season if we'd asked how many of that starting HKR 17 would I take in the Leeds starting 17.
For me it would have been 2 - Abdul and Coote.
You could probably make an argument for 3 or 4.
So my point is, and the problem is - Leeds are underperforming.
HKR are performing very well - and good luck to you!

You could make an argument for 17 based on Friday. But next week might be 2-3 if we pay well vs Hudds. That’s sport…..

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:08 am  

Matt Shaw has it right about our inconsistency - the gap between the best and worst of some of our players is way too big. I think part of that comes down to lack of leaders in key positions, so when we aren't playing well everyone is waiting for someone else to make something happen. The worst offender for this has to be Sezer, who seems to be the invisible man whenever we need someone to drag the team with them.

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 9:45 am  

Once were Loiners wrote:

Matt Shaw has it right about our inconsistency - the gap between the best and worst of some of our players is way too big. I think part of that comes down to lack of leaders in key positions, so when we aren't playing well everyone is waiting for someone else to make something happen. The worst offender for this has to be Sezer, who seems to be the invisible man whenever we need someone to drag the team with them.

Sezer is quiet and I always like gobby halves. But he get stick for games like Friday and Cas away but can he do much when we don’t have 1 PTB in their 20 in a whole half? And not many in the second , where he kicks for 2 tries. He spent most of the gaming defending and stopped Linnett, who is a real threat really well.

Croft, Williams and lomax don’t do much game changing stuff in their own 20.

I agree about we need a real leader

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:12 am  

Shabino wrote:

You could make an argument for 17 based on Friday. But next week might be 2-3 if we pay well vs Hudds. That’s sport…..

Correct Shabs, that's why I said ignore the last 7 games.
And as always with sport, if we play well and beat Hudds next week, all is forgotten.
Until we get beat by Hull again the following week....

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 10:13 am  

Simmo71 wrote:

Correct Shabs, that's why I said ignore the last 7 games.
And as always with sport, if we play well and beat Hudds next week, all is forgotten.
Until we get beat by Hull again the following week....

I’ll retire as ac fan if we loose again vs this Hull team!

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:08 am  

we did a few weeks back....

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 11:50 am  

tad rhino wrote:

we did a few weeks back....

Yeah but have you seen what’s happened since then!

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:23 pm  

they have been totally crap.
we have been mainly crap

Re: SL RD 7 | Hull KR (A) : Sun Apr 02, 2023 12:32 pm  

FlexWheeler wrote:

People keep making lame excuses.

We get thrashed at Warrington at the best of times

Even our great teams got beat at Hull KR

Even our great teams lost at Cas, it’s a derby.

Hull was close, it could have gone either way.

It was wet and windy, we had injuries.

It’s a process….blah blah blah. All this is in first 2 months of the season.

Why is Smith on a downward trajectory compared to last season despite apparently getting rid of some dead wood and bringing his own players in?

Remember in 2019- it’s a 5 year transition
2020- it’s a 5 year transition, starting from now
2021 - actually it starts now
2022 - no now.

Let me guess, Smith needs to clear out loads of dead wood and it’ll probably take a few years to get cooking? Yeah I thought.

Let’s just call it a 30-year transition and wait for another golden generation, if the game isn’t dead by then.

We have got rid of some so called dead wood and replaced it with guess what ?
Some more dead wood