Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:06 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

Yes it is. The rest of the team are working class lads, Keinhorst would appear to have come from a more middle class background, snowflake territory. A lot of university types seem to be permanently making a point about something.

Maybe because it’s a load of outdated rubbish about God and the Queen. Neither I would ever sing for.

As soon as you say Snowflake you put yourself firmly in the narrow minded Trump/Farage territory.

Also, maybe he considers himself German?? But don’t let that stop you making stupid inverted snobbish comments about him going to university!

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:09 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

Why didn’t Keinhorst sing the national Anthem ? I wouldn’t expect any of the Aussies to sing it, but for a lad that is born in Leeds and has spent 26 years of his life in his home city I find it a little disrespectful.

Perhaps we killed some of his ancestors during the two world wars?

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:17 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

Yes it is. The rest of the team are working class lads, Keinhorst would appear to have come from a more middle class background, snowflake territory. A lot of university types seem to be permanently making a point about something.

Imagine campaigning against war and mass murder, or even for all groups of people to have equal rights. As you say snowflake fools.

I have heard on the grapevine however, some universities now consider allowing working class people to attend their institutions.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 5:45 pm  

I thought individually we had a dig but collectively hardly anything clicked.There huge pack then throw in some World Class players aswell is anyone really surprised by the result?
Also lets be honest we were always up against with so many forwards then losing Ward & Walker was going to bite aswell.
I think it'll be good experience for many of our lads & something they can learn from.
With regards to Keinhorst not singing the National Anthem it's a democracy & freedom of choice simple as that really.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:05 pm  

Maybe because Keinhorst represents Germany at international level he thought it wrong to then sing another national anthem?

Not really fussed is someone doesn't sing it and it doesn't have to mean anything significant because it could've been even something as little as they feel awkward singing in such an open occasion.

Gary Neville was criticised for not doing it in football but said it was simply because he was too focused on the match he was about to play rather than any reason more deeper.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:11 pm  

RHINO-MARK wrote:

I think it'll be good experience for many of our lads & something they can learn from.
With regards to Keinhorst not singing the National Anthem it's a democracy & freedom of choice simple as that really.

Absolutely agree, and I hope these games never get seen as in inconvenience for SL sides as the more the better for development. Melbourne seemed very serious about it and turn out was good too.

Thank goodness it is or we might all be forced to don Theresa May hair cuts!

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:18 pm  

leeds owl wrote:

Yes it is. The rest of the team are working class lads, Keinhorst would appear to have come from a more middle class background, snowflake territory. A lot of university types seem to be permanently making a point about something.

you don't have to be middle class or be any kind of snowflake to realise its an anthem of Empire which the ruling classes lorded over ,but you cant just condemn Keinhorst for not singing when you don't know why

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:34 pm  

Seth wrote:

I'll not go as far as highly offended personally, but I don't like it and I don't like the general consensus that's it's disrespectful to not sing it. It doesn't represent a large proportion of society in this country yet is supposed to reflect national pride regardless of how outdated and irrelevant.

Whichever anthem is played, it will not please everyone, and as for outdated (do you want a referendum on it). Whether people like it or not it is supposed to bring a patriotic pride to the nation, so get behind it. I would prefer "Land of Hope and Glory" but some would say that is outdated, but it brings a tear to my eye when it is sung at internationals.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:34 pm  

It highlighted why players like Cuthbertson and Parcell couldn't command a regular position in the NRL - both looked very average. Not easy against the best club side in the world. Men against boys.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:39 pm  

Giantscorpio wrote:

Whichever anthem is played, it will not please everyone, and as for outdated (do you want a referendum on it). Whether people like it or not it is supposed to bring a patriotic pride to the nation, so get behind it. I would prefer "Land of Hope and Glory" but some would say that is outdated, but it brings a tear to my eye when it is sung at internationals.

I'm an atheist, so saying the word god is something I didn't even do in my wedding vows. And they don't even specify which of the thousands of historical mythological deities it even refers to! I also don't support the royal family. This isn't just because people think the tune isn't catchy enough, it's the very specific messages that I (and many others) couldn't care less about. Though I don't know why you asked if I want a referendum on it? Was that some nod to my snowflake lefty liberalist agenda?