Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:41 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

It highlighted why players like Cuthbertson and Parcell couldn't command a regular position in the NRL - both looked very average. Not easy against the best club side in the world. Men against boys.

All it really highlighted is that we need to be at our strongest 17 to have a chance against them.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 6:48 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

All it really highlighted is that we need to be at our strongest 17 to have a chance against them.

What it showed is plays that will work for these two in SL simply don't cut the mustard when the standard increases which explains why both are playing in SL and not in the NRL

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:17 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

What it showed is plays that will work for these two in SL simply don't cut the mustard when the standard increases which explains why both are playing in SL and not in the NRL

Judging them on one game where they had a lack of front row support and a 2 man bench for almost 3/4 quarters is quite silly.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:49 pm  

PrinterThe wrote:

Judging them on one game where they had a lack of front row support and a 2 man bench for almost 3/4 quarters is quite silly.

I actually thought Parcell was one of our best, he was one of few who looked likely, and I thought he did his best to take it to em in both attack and defence. He seemed to have a bit of fire in his belly. Made a few poor choices, but was having a good old dig.
After saying I thought Sutcliffe is guilty of letting the game pass him by on the other thread earlier this week, I have to be balanced and say I thought he involved himself plenty today, would like to see that happen more consistently.
Top and bottom of if for me is that their pack is pretty awesome, and they've got some superstars pulling the strings and game breakers in the backs, we're a long way off them talent wise, and we were depleted.
I always do the 1-17 comparison - how many of our players would have got a gig in that Melbourne 17? Watkins possibly, I'd choose Hall over Addo-Carr, but doubt they would (can't replace his speed, and they don't need a winger doing the donkey work that Hall does for us), other than that, I don't think anyone gets a game.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 7:52 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

It highlighted why players like Cuthbertson and Parcell couldn't command a regular position in the NRL - both looked very average. Not easy against the best club side in the world. Men against boys.

I think that’s harsh and incorrect. What it showed is that it’s difficult to shine behind a lightweight pack. I don’t think anybody looked out of their depth to be honest, and that we’d have run them much closer had we had a fully fit pack. The first half gave me great optimism for the season ahead.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:16 pm  

Sal Paradise wrote:

It highlighted why players like Cuthbertson and Parcell couldn't command a regular position in the NRL - both looked very average. Not easy against the best club side in the world. Men against boys.

Did it really?
Cuthbertson had a pretty long career in the NRL did he not?
Parcell will play regular 1st team games in the NRL if & when he decides to return home.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Fri Feb 16, 2018 8:30 pm  

If you only watched Melbourne games in 2017 and no other NRL games then I'm sure you'd think plenty of opposition players including proven NRL players were just average or worst and wouldn't make it in the NRL.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:58 am  

I haven’t read all of the posts. I hope someone else has congratulated your fans on educating the Melbourne fans how to support your team. Your fans were outstanding. Most Australian teams only have one song, and it’s the same song, plus they have to be revved up to make any noise. Your lot sang throughout and even drowned out the few Melbourne chants. The result didn’t go the right way but you gave the Aussies a lesson in how to get behind your team.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Sat Feb 17, 2018 4:50 am  

leeds owl wrote:

Yes it is. The rest of the team are working class lads, Keinhorst would appear to have come from a more middle class background, snowflake territory. A lot of university types seem to be permanently making a point about something.

Who's the real snowflake here? The derogatory term is for people who are prone to take offence or are too emotionally vulnerable to cope with views different to their own. But it's YOU who is getting incredibly offended by someone not singing a song

It's a classic form of projection by someone who clearly isn't capable of independent thought.

Re: WCC18 | Melbourne Storm v Leeds Rhinos : Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:36 am  

lionarmour87 wrote:

Maybe to Keinhorst not singing the Anthem is a political gesture ,he might be of the opinion the its the anthem of the ruling classes . There is controversy in USA about African American players kneeling for The Star Spangled Banner as a protest of what they feel is unfair treatment of their people by the state . Remember Tommy Smith in the 1968 Olympics .

I remember Tommie Smith and also the other US athlete on the podium John Carlos. Not forgetting the Aussie silver medalist Peter Norman who wore an anti racist badge with them. Norman was for years pilloried back in Aus but was finally vindicated by a Government apology. At his funeral Smith and Carlos came from the US to be pallbearers.