[Ex-Swarcliffe Rhino]

Re: Ryan Bailey : Thu Apr 04, 2013 10:02 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

There could be a chant in there somewhere.........

PG13?

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 8:09 am  

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22034937 An interesting read. It seems as his legend grows so does he. the 6 foot 6 inch giant

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22034937 An interesting read. It seems as his legend grows so does he. the 6 foot 6 inch giant

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 9:29 am  

Biff Tannen wrote:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/rugby-league/22034937

An interesting read.

Fantastic insight from a man who should know.

"He was guilty before he got in front of that disciplinary panel because people have that perception of him.

"Being Leeds's bad boy is a by-product of what he does. Jamie Peacock plays the same role at the club but in a very different way. Because of the respect players have for JP, the reaction is that when he gets in trouble - as with his sin-binning against Bradford Bulls last week [for dissent] - you sense players feel it must just be JP getting frustrated.

"Bailey does what he does and they say it's his fault. There's no sympathy, no excuses. They don't blame anyone else."

I've been saying this for years and I genuinely believe it's deep rooted racism. Everyone loves or respects tough guy enforcers like JP, Morley, Barrie Mac 9all of whom were far more thuggish than Bailey on the pitch) but that uppity Bailey should know his place!

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:28 am  

G1 wrote:

I've been saying this for years and I genuinely believe it's deep rooted racism. Everyone loves or respects tough guy enforcers like JP, Morley, Barrie Mac 9all of whom were far more thuggish than Bailey on the pitch) but that uppity Bailey should know his place!

Completely agree.

Also, an interesting comment from Barrie bout the GF when 3 or 4 Warrington players were after Bailey while Warrington were attacking - they had opened Leeds up and player with the ball looked for someone to pass to, but there was nobody there - they were all squaring up to Bailey at the other end of the pitch. He effectively took out 3 or 4 attackers - classic.

[Bullseye]

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 10:32 am  

G1 wrote:

Fantastic insight from a man who should know.


I've been saying this for years and I genuinely believe it's deep rooted racism. Everyone loves or respects tough guy enforcers like JP, Morley, Barrie Mac 9all of whom were far more thuggish than Bailey on the pitch) but that uppity Bailey should know his place!

Is Bailey "a tough guy enforcer"? I don't think he is. He gets under the skin of some opponents and supporters but this isn't from out and out violent play if it was his disciplinery record would be far worse, despite what fans think the officials aren't blind. If he was more overtly violent and tough then perhaps he'd actually get more respect from fans?

Does he play hard but usually fair? His record suggests so, there may be plenty of sly digs and verbals in that career but nothing major. I think the problem here is his general manner that people object to. There have been far dirtier black players that have got less stick than Ryan Bailey - Sonny Nickle for one. I think Bailey's main asset is his ability to put opponents off their game simply by being himself.

Is it racism? Unconcious or overt? It may be in some cases but I don't think you can tar all people that dislike Bailey with that brush.

Personally I think the attention he gets is way OTT.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:11 am  

Barrie Mac wrote:

"For the opposition, he's like a splinter in your finger that you can't get out."

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:13 am  

Bullseye wrote:

If he was more overtly violent and tough then perhaps he'd actually get more respect from fans?

To have him sat in the stand more? No thanks.

[Bullseye]

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 11:24 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

To have him sat in the stand more? No thanks.

You think too much.

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 12:57 pm  

BIG HOWARD wrote:

seems a little harsh to suspend ryan bailey for doing what he always does (late cheap shots on half backs) why didn"t he use his "i play for leeds so i am immune from suspension " card and accept his £300 fine

"It must be cold there, in our shadow..."

Hugs to Radders!

Re: Ryan Bailey : Fri Apr 05, 2013 1:22 pm  

G1 wrote:

Everyone loves or respects tough guy enforcers like JP, Morley, Barrie Mac 9all of whom were far more thuggish than Bailey on the pitch) but that uppity Bailey should know his place!

My genuine take on this is that all of the players you name are very much toe to toe "tough guy enforcers" as you put it, and I think it's the the toe to toe aspect that gets the respect; it always has in RL.

The general impression amongst supporters is that Bailey's tough guy antics are often reserved for the smallest players on the pitch or are of a less mano-a-mano nature.

I certainly don't buy the "coward" nonsense, he's clearly not that - no RL props are.