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William Eve wrote:
13 games for around the price of 11.


Ignoring the other stuff, even when I was still living in Leeds and going to most home and away matches, the only reason I had a season ticket the last season I was still there (2006) was that I had it for Christmas and it made the weekly household budget easier to manage. I probably only went to enough home games to break even.
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I doubt McDermott will be sacked if we lose on Friday.

In my opinion we need better, our attack and defence is woeful and we rely on individual talent.

You only have to look at Wigan's attack structure in which they can slot numerous players in and still attack well. They execute dummy runners well and make it very difficult for a defence to predict where the ball shall go.

In defence, it is so unreliable and leaky with holes opening very easily.

We need a coach with a bit of technical nous which would recover our defence and attack. I think the quality of players are there, it is just the quality of coaching.


you make some good points,and i certainly agree with the part that we need to get some structures in our game.

Look at the top sides.Wire and Wigan have very good structures and when they are in the opposition half always look dangerous with the runners all knowing what is happening.The 20 minutes Wire took us apart at Wembley is a perfect example of this.However,like you say we rely too much on individual brilliance to come up with points and in defence look all at sea all too often.

Mac has had 2 seasons to stamp his authority on this group but nothing has changed and whether he has the ability to or not i dont know, but i cant see it changing next season.

But,as has been said maybe its just best to let him see out our transitional period then line up a top quality coach to bring some fresh ideas to the team.
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William Eve wrote:
On top of the dull, uninspiring and boring RL on offer... what does a season ticket get you?
13 games for around the price of 11.
Of which 10 are against whipping boy SL rabble... YAWN!
Which leaves 3 of potential interest against genuine competition.
Of which Leeds turn up and can be @rsed in perhaps 1 of those 3 games.
And one key player admits on twitter he doesn't care as Leeds win when it really counts.
I bet he cares this week... whoops... never mind, eh?

No thanks.
Not for me.


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Have you ever had a season ticket Billy, and if so have you ever felt you got value for money out of it?
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the sad thing is, there will still be people posting on this thread bashing McDermott even if we win the GF again.
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tvoc wrote:
Leeds had a low error count on Friday, I expect Les Catalans' was much higher.


A general observation confirmed by Opta to be the case.

They had Leeds making a total of 7 to Les Catalans 18. The Leeds figure equals their season best while only Warrington have made more mistakes in a game while facing Leeds this year in SL.

The +11 to Leeds in that category (although many of Les Catalans' errors were self inflicted) represents a season best advantage. With Sinfield really stepping up his defensive effort you can tell the important games to this group are finally here.
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I'm with tvoc on the fact that since the WCC you could only count Wigan in the CC semi as an impresive performance (maybe Wire at home too). Cats away was a good result, but not really that impressive given their record in play offs. Balancing that we have numerous drubbings (including at home) and poor performances against the top 3, and another very poor Wembley effort.

I suspect the Cats result will mean McDermott will remain for next year regardless of the result against Wigan (especially with McGuire out giving us a ready-made excuse for a loss). However, I'd hope that GH makes very plain to the players as well as McDermott that performances in weekly rounds must be better next year. He'll be well aware that season ticket sales holding up based purely on being able to win at the end of the season is no way to run a business.
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BrisbaneRhino wrote:
I'm with tvoc on the fact that since the WCC you could only count Wigan in the CC semi as an impresive performance (maybe Wire at home too).


And that Leeds - Warrington game at Headingley in Round 6 is the one referenced in the post above yours. Warrington even managed to out-error the Les Catalans 'performance' from Friday. That is not to suggest Leeds didn't perform well but in both cases they were considerably helped by mistake-ridden opposition efforts.

Let's hope Wigan are feeling in an equally generous mood - although they weren't in either of the Regular Round meetings so far this season making 8 and 10 respectfully according to Opta.
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tvoc wrote:
And that Leeds - Warrington game at Headingley in Round 6 is the one referenced in the post above yours. Warrington even managed to out-error the Les Catalans 'performance' from Friday. That is not to suggest Leeds didn't perform well but in both cases they were considerably helped by mistake-ridden opposition efforts.

Let's hope Wigan are feeling in an equally generous mood - although they weren't in either of the Regular Round meetings so far this season making 8 and 10 respectfully according to Opta.


By the same token some of our losses this year could be attributed to our high error count which would mean the winners were "considerably helped by mistake ridden opposition efforts" too!! We had the 3rd highest error count in SL. However your stats are pointless unless they also record that these errors actually cost us those games otherwise it is just conjecture. Warrington finished one point behind the leaders and lost 5 fewer games than we did yet made 15% more errors over the season.
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