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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:24 am  
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Ooh Dave's back :thumb:


Dave doesn't say much. But when he does, he is right.
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Gotcha in 2016 wrote:
McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.


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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:25 am  
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Dave doesn't say much. But when he does, he is right.


Unlike Gotcha.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:26 am  
In fairness it is not a bad bit of business if you think about it logically.

Leeds have bagged a loan fee (undisclosed)
Cas get Zak for a year on a try before you buy basis
Leeds then get the remainder of the fee in 2017 when Zak goes permanently
Leed get cash for Zak. Cas get Zak and are able to pay in two instalments.
Hopefully Cas will be paying some if not all of his wages next season.
So actually from a business point of view win win all round
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:38 am  
vsewo wrote:
In fairness it is not a bad bit of business if you think about it logically.

Leeds have bagged a loan fee (undisclosed)
Cas get Zak for a year on a try before you buy basis
Leeds then get the remainder of the fee in 2017 when Zak goes permanently
Leed get cash for Zak. Cas get Zak and are able to pay in two instalments.
Hopefully Cas will be paying some if not all of his wages next season.
So actually from a business point of view win win all round


Great deal for Cas. I don't see any mention of a loan fee, just an agreed fee to make the move permanent at the end of next year.
If he plays well and behaves Cas will pay the fee.
If he can't recapture his form or continues his off-field antics, he becomes Leeds' problem again.
Just shows how desperate Leeds were to get rid of him.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:40 am  
Its going to be a bit of an awakening for him from the pampered life at Headingley either way.

I hope it works out.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:42 am  
Fees agreed,contracts not.Still a Leeds player.You may have to pamper him again.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:45 am  
If a loan is what has been agreed I think it is great business by Cas and very poor business by Leeds.
What if he gets MOS does his value go up?
If he messes up he goes back to Leeds and we are faced with the same problem trying to get rid only this time it will be at a fraction of the supposed £160,000.
It also means we have no cash in the kitty to dip into the market should we even contemplate doing so this year.
We do appear to be on a bit of a slippery slope.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:46 am  
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Great deal for Cas. I don't see any mention of a loan fee, just an agreed fee to make the move permanent at the end of next year.
If he plays well and behaves Cas will pay the fee.
If he can't recapture his form or continues his off-field antics, he becomes Leeds' problem again.
Just shows how desperate Leeds were to get rid of him.



"Leeds Rhinos and Castleford Tigers have agreed a undisclosed fee for the loan of England full back Zak Hardaker to the Tigers for the 2017 season."

The above is the first line on the Rhinos Official Website - I read that as a "fee for the loan of Zak". Happy to be guided on my interpretation of that sentence
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:47 am  
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If a loan is what has been agreed I think it is great business by Cas and very poor business by Leeds.
What if he gets MOS does his value go up?
If he messes up he goes back to Leeds and we are faced with the same problem trying to get rid only this time it will be at a fraction of the supposed £160,000.
It also means we have no cash in the kitty to dip into the market should we even contemplate doing so this year.
We do appear to be on a bit of a slippery slope.


Indeed. Its win-win for Cas. The fee doesn't go up if he regains his form, but we can dump him back on you if we don't want to keep him for any reason.
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Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 11:49 am  
vsewo wrote:
"Leeds Rhinos and Castleford Tigers have agreed a undisclosed fee for the loan of England full back Zak Hardaker to the Tigers for the 2017 season."

The above is the first line on the Rhinos Official Website - I read that as a "fee for the loan of Zak". Happy to be guided on my interpretation of that sentence


Interesting, it does read that way. The Cas site only mentions the future fee.
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