Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:45 am  

thebloodbath wrote:

You can't polish a turd though. They are not miracle workers.

Biff is an interesting case. He is useful and there is something there. I have always questioned his lack of improvement over the last 3/4 years in a Leeds shirt. I don't think his improvement levels have gone up enough to warrant him a top end prop. But we can see what impact the NRL will have on his game.

Did Mathers, Tansey, Sibbit come back better players? Or were they not really on that level anyway, the bracket I think Biff falls into.

Morley, Ellis, Sam stand out as real handfuls over-there because they stood out over here first as excellent players. It does help.

IMO Biff probably falls into neither catagory mentioned above, somewhere in gthe middle for me.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:49 am  

Rogues Gallery wrote:

The salary cap audits have just been completed.

My thoughts entirely. Weve had a very large squad this year - sadly of average forwards in the main. Certainly the least productive squad of the last few years, but clearly not the cheapest. We can put 2 full packs out and still have spares!

Leuleui
Buderus
Peacock
JJB
Ablett
Sinfield

Cross
McShane
Burgess
Lauitiiti
Hauraki
Clarkson

Bailey
Ambler
Amor
Kirke
Pitts

Then theres always Delaney & Senior (pre injury) if we're short. Crazy!

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 8:59 am  

Leeds and the Leeds CEO have never had the slightest whiff of trouble with regards to adhering to the salary cap in the past ..... which is now a 'live' assessment anyway with all playing contracts lodged with the RFL to ensure compliance.

No SL club should really have any issues in that regard.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:00 am  

Strange it hasn't taken three days to decide on a move to the other side of the world

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:03 am  

tvoc wrote:

Leeds and the Leeds CEO have never had the slightest whiff of trouble with regards to adhering to the salary cap in the past ..... which is now a 'live' assessment anyway with all playing contracts lodged with the RFL to ensure compliance.

No SL club should really have any issues in that regard.

Unless they have secondary contracts a la melbourne.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:04 am  

Ferdy wrote:

Good move for Biff, From the interview I read we didnt come out of it very well. 3 days to make a life changing decision and removing the offer when asked for more time??

Difference being this 'life changing decision' was made over a year ago, which has been well publicised. Its not like the Souths offer came out of the blue is it?

My guess is that the Leeds offer was probably higher than he expected (& better money than Souths) which threw a spanner in the works. Better money or better lifestyle? You cant have your cake & eat it.

Good on GH for not wanting to be messed about with this.

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:07 am  

AJC wrote:

Difference being this 'life changing decision' was made over a year ago, which has been well publicised. Its not like the Souths offer came out of the blue is it?

My guess is that the Leeds offer was probably higher than he expected (& better money than Souths) which threw a spanner in the works. Better money or better lifestyle? You cant have your cake & eat it.

Good on GH for not wanting to be messed about with this.

It depends on how long extra biff wanted to decide. I cant imagine he wanted a few months to decide and for me its not "Good on GH" but stupid and pig headded to not give him at least a few extra days to decide

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:08 am  

Sounds like he's got a good 2 year deal at South Sidney.

Good luck to the guy

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:13 am  

tvoc wrote:

Leeds and the Leeds CEO have never had the slightest whiff of trouble with regards to adhering to the salary cap in the past ..... which is now a 'live' assessment anyway with all playing contracts lodged with the RFL to ensure compliance.

No SL club should really have any issues in that regard.

GH has certainly proven to be the master of salary cap management since its introduction, but it is exceptional to release players mid contract with no obvious breach of discipline. I could only come up with 2 possibilities, firstly to trim the cap, secondly (and hopefully) to make room for a new signing. Over to you GH

Re: Cross & Burgess... Get us out of here : Tue Jun 21, 2011 9:21 am  

Ferdy wrote:

It depends on how long extra biff wanted to decide. I cant imagine he wanted a few months to decide and for me its not "Good on GH" but stupid and pig headded to not give him at least a few extra days to decide

Much better players than Luke have messed about with GH and failed. Luke had told everybody he was off at the end of season so the Leeds deal was (in theory) lip service. It doesnt take 3 days to say no