Re: For the live of God,Allah or whoever-McDermott GO!!! : Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:07 am
Juan Cornetto wrote:
By the same token some of our losses this year could be attributed to our high error count which would mean the winners were "considerably helped by mistake ridden opposition efforts" too!!
Perhaps but not neccessarily so. Which specific games do you have in mind?
Juan Cornetto wrote:
We had the 3rd highest error count in SL. However your stats are pointless unless they also record that these errors actually cost us those games otherwise it is just conjecture. Warrington finished one point behind the leaders and lost 5 fewer games than we did yet made 15% more errors over the season.
Do I say errors and errors alone cost any team any game? I think they are a key element but there are other elements also. There is a tendancy for some to focus on penalty counts almost to the exclusion of everything else but sometimes penalties conceded at an appropriate time and situation prevent a worse case occurring.
Do you think taking an overall season tally as you have done there adds anything to a discussion regarding whether on any given day one team making a disproportionately high amount of errors in relation to their opponents has a key part to play in the eventual outcome?
The relevance to the statistic is on the day not when taken as an average over 27 rounds. If both teams make a similar amount of errors the impact on the result will be marginal. If, as occurred on Friday, one team improves on their usual average while the other exceeds theirs and it result in a large disparity then I maintain that the large disparity will have an impact on the outcome.
The average over the season will have no bearing unless the game falls in-line with those averages and this one clearly didn't as Leeds made 46% fewer errors than their average would suggest they would over 27 rounds just as Les Catalans made 23% more than theirs.
It's the disparity within the eighty minutes that can be argued to have had an effect on the outcome not neccessarily the relative averages of the two competing teams over the season.