Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:40 pm  

Yes your correct about his salary, it does count against Castleford's salary cap. I was thinking of dual-reg players, where the salary remains as is.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:41 pm  

blinkstudios wrote:

Hardaker is at Cas 2017 on loan, the deal states that if Cas want him after that they pay Leeds a pre agreed fee for him and have 1st refusal. This stops any other club signing him under Cas's nose. Cas have had your pants down Leeds, its a win win situation

I'm sure there will be a decision date where that first refusal comes in here, GH is not daft. If Hardaker starts the season well Cas will be falling over themselves to pay that fee in full asap, if not GH will probably find some other mug club to take him on - win win

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 1:59 pm  

Im pretty sure loan players still count on his parent clubs cap space as bizarre as that sounds.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:02 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

It's reported on every article that we have agreed a fee to make the move permanent if we choose to.

It says you have an option to make it permanent for the agreed fee, that isn't 1st refusal though.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:20 pm  

ThePrinter wrote:

It says you have an option to make it permanent for the agreed fee, that isn't 1st refusal though.

But how would we have an option to make it permanent if another club were able to sign him?

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:24 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

But how would we have an option to make it permanent if another club were able to sign him?

Probably means Leeds would allow it...but should another team come in during that time then Leeds could accept that offer. Basically, Leeds are using Cas as a showcase.Fair enough, it's a good situation for Cas too, but If he starts the season well there won't be a shortage of interested parties.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 2:37 pm  

The relevant Salary Cap rules.....5.8 Loans and Dual Registration
(a) The temporary transfer of a Player by way of a loan shall be treated as a
permanent transfer. Accordingly:
(i) where a Super League Club is the loaning Club, the Player shall
cease to be a considered to be a Player of that Club for the
purpose of calculating its Aggregate Liability for the duration of
the Loan;
(ii) where a Super League Club is the loanee Club, the Player’s full
Salary Cap Value at his original Club (for the avoidance of doubt
excluding any dispensations that related only to the Original
Club) shall count towards the loanee Club’s Aggregate Liability.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:25 pm  

nottinghamtiger wrote:

But how would we have an option to make it permanent if another club were able to sign him?

You have an option to sign him for the agreed fee. Basically means Leeds can't come back and ask for £200k+ if he has a good season. Doesn't mean we couldn't accept that kind of offer from another club.

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:36 pm  

Your forgetting an important fact, Hardaker as to want to go to the club in the first place as Huddersfield have found out. Without that Hetherington can do nothing

Re: Hardaker : Tue Nov 08, 2016 3:42 pm  

blinkstudios wrote:

Your forgetting an important fact, Hardaker as to want to go to the club in the first place as Huddersfield have found out. Without that Hetherington can do nothing

He could bring him back and make him sit in the reserves for a couple of years...oh sorry there are no reserves... i mean rot, out of spite if he refuses to go