: Fri Apr 24, 2009 3:57 pm  

Cala Millor Rhino wrote:

i've been and done it, but didn't take out an overdraft!

congratulations, did you graduate before 2004 by any chance?

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:05 pm  

J O N N Y wrote:

congratulations, did you graduate before 2004 by any chance?

in 2005

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:06 pm  

I can also claim i have gone through leeds met without needing an overdraft. So it can be done

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:07 pm  

Cala Millor Rhino wrote:

in 2005

ok, so before the top up fees were implemented, and the culture of debt that now enshrines the majority of students

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:10 pm  

J O N N Y wrote:

ok, so before the top up fees were implemented, and the culture of debt that now enshrines the majority of students

That culture has been around for a long time though its nothing new, and it is too easy for students to get into debt infact we have a system that actively encourages it.

it is possible to go through Uni without getting into extravagant amount of debt but most students don't/won't make that happen preferring to build problems for themselves when the graduate instead.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:12 pm  

J O N N Y wrote:

ok, so before the top up fees were implemented, and the culture of debt that now enshrines the majority of students

i hate to say it, but there are loads of part-time jobs about thats what people who don't want to end up in debt do, thats what i did!

i'm sorry, but i've been there, done it, worked through uni and come out without an over-draft! anyone who comes out with a sob story is either lazy or too interested in gettting pi$$ed to work!

no sympathy!

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:22 pm  

Cala Millor Rhino wrote:

i hate to say it, but there are loads of part-time jobs about thats what people who don't want to end up in debt do, thats what i did!

i'm sorry, but i've been there, done it, worked through uni and come out without an over-draft! anyone who comes out with a sob story is either lazy or too interested in gettting pi$$ed to work!

no sympathy!

Spot on, there is no reason people can't study and work, especially as most course you are lucky if you are expected to attend lectures for 10 hours a week.

The problem is too many people see Uni as a chance to party for 3 years rather than taking it seriously and looking to the future benefits it can hold.

The only debt I had when I left uni was from my student loan, I worked every hour possible (and my course wasn't as "easy" in the hours department as a lot) to ensure that I could support myself through the course, yes I missed out on a lot due to it - I hardly went to any matches for the 3 years - but at least other than the student loan I am not left in debt now as a result.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:37 pm  

My nephew lived at home and didn't have a car or a booze habit. Three years studying art and 10 quid in debt.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:41 pm  

Dave Heron's Moustache wrote:

Breaking my rule about responding on a thread started by someone called Lord Magoon...

If you want to reduce University fees then we have to stop letting thousands of thick people go to University.


Discuss......

Bingo.

University at one point actually meant something. Now anybody can go to Uni and get a degree by doing little more than getting bladdered every night.

: Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:53 pm  

Cala Millor Rhino wrote:

i hate to say it, but there are loads of part-time jobs about thats what people who don't want to end up in debt do, thats what i did!

are you assuming that i graduated with an overdraft? i worked some crazy hours in order to be able to avoid the levels of debt some of my friends are in.

i'm sorry, but i've been there, done it, worked through uni and come out without an over-draft! anyone who comes out with a sob story is either lazy or too interested in gettting pi$$ed to work!

no sympathy!

most people wouldnt describe there university overdraft as a sob story though. the level of debt that most students take on has been normalised into the university lifestyle.

and well done for getting back to your stereotyping