Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:39 pm  

Seth wrote:

I've always been very pragmatic and never once contributed to the mcdermott out message through all those years and was very much the opposite of that. But all context considered this time I feel Agar needs to go as soon as viably possible. Wouldn't mind seeing ward til the end of the year.

mcdermott supporter?

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 7:55 pm  

if the 3 losses were against the lower placed teams im sure leeds would be much more concerned. Losses to catalan wigan and warrington spread over a few extra rounds with wins against toulouse and salford say would look way better.

I'm sure the management know what they want and will be looking out there.

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:00 pm  

Absolutely no point changing the coach now.
He is moving to DOR, so the club must be working on a plan.
But I fear a long, hard, fruitless season.
And instead of a new coach coming in with us on the up, he will be coming in to a rebuilding job.

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:02 pm  

doc-rhino wrote:

mcdermott supporter?

Oh for a number of years yes, his success over that period supported my thoughts on him at that time. In his latter days I could see it was time for him to go, and on top of hearing what an unpleasant individual he could be.

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:05 pm  

ALAW wrote:

if the 3 losses were against the lower placed teams im sure leeds would be much more concerned. Losses to catalan wigan and warrington spread over a few extra rounds with wins against toulouse and salford say would look way better.

I'm sure the management know what they want and will be looking out there.

It's a long drawn out affair is this rebuilding job isn't it. What are we in now, year 5 of the transition?

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 8:19 pm  

Whats this new fangled idea of all these teams playing tonight with 2 starting props and 2 on the bench. Do these teams have a different DNA to Leeds'?

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:33 pm  

Goes at season end for me if he doesn’t deliver top 3 finish. The players were so poor last night, they did constant brain farts and that wasn’t Agars fault to be fair. But we’ve got to improve and fast

Re: Agar out? : Fri Feb 25, 2022 11:46 pm  

Errors are always down to individuals. But when you see a constant pattern of repeated mistakes, like with the lack of discipline, then it starts to be more a coaching issue.

Re: Agar out? : Sat Feb 26, 2022 7:45 am  

So, I'm sure the search for a head coach is extensive and ongoing. It's not exactly going to be messaged out that we're desperately looking for a head coach, because what message does that send to the fans and players. Getting rid of Agar is not a viable option without a replacement lined up. Sacking Agar means he leaves the club, and Long is probably in charge in the meantime. I don't think that would change anything for the better.

For the context of 3 games, we've been without 3 of our first choice back 3, so lack impact out wide. We've also lost our whole 2nd row.
In the Warrington game we made a good first of it and just came up short. At Wigan the performance fell off a cliff when Tet and Prior went off. Against Catalan, we made bucket loads of meters, but didn't have strike out wide to execute.

Get more games under the belt for combinations to click, get some front line players back in the team and see how we are after 10 games or so.

Re: Agar out? : Sat Feb 26, 2022 9:45 am  

Seth wrote:

It's a long drawn out affair is this rebuilding job isn't it. What are we in now, year 5 of the transition?

Looking more like 85-86 through to 1998, I’m not one for just wanting to throw youngsters in, but its more and more apparent that the likes of Briscoe Smith and a few others are simply past it by some distance or not good enough. Lets just give the likes of Max Simpson Broadbent oconnor a bit of a run of games.