Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:03 pm  

Consistency is the key. I really don’t think it was more than a penalty…but I also think positions and reputations play into it a bit, if it’s a back row coming across in cover like that and coming up with that tackle I think they get a card and a minimum of 1 game. Likewise if it’s someone like Bentley or Edwards or even Bell or Matautia (Sione or Peter).

I’m not saying anyone is cheating or whatever but I do think there’s some unconscious bias.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:06 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

He won’t get called up because there were 5 worse high tackles in that game alone. First contact was on the shoulder, and moves up as Broadbent was falling. It was marginally high and worth a penalty but nothing more. The penalty try was insane given the cover coming over.

Are we really at the point of demanding any penalty Saints concede should be a grade C offence?

Like others have said mate, consistency is what we all want.

I’ve no problem if he’s not banned, but we all know it won’t be the same every week. I am however struggling to remember 5 worse tackles than that one.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 4:11 pm  

Magic Superbeetle wrote:

He won’t get called up because there were 5 worse high tackles in that game alone. First contact was on the shoulder, and moves up as Broadbent was falling. It was marginally high and worth a penalty but nothing more. The penalty try was insane given the cover coming over.

Are we really at the point of demanding any penalty Saints concede should be a grade C offence?

He wasn’t falling and wellsby had both feet off the ground and hit him directly on the head.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:23 pm  

By last year's standards its 2-3 games. Do we go from that to 0 or meet in the middle at 1. It should have been a yellow though.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 5:37 pm  

Seth wrote:

By last year's standards its 2-3 games. Do we go from that to 0 or meet in the middle at 1. It should have been a yellow though.

it's Saints, so probably a 1 match ban for Rhyse Martin

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:26 pm  

Wouldn't have a problem with him not getting any ban. Didn't think it was more than a penalty tbh. Would have been interesting if it had gone to the vid ref as cover coming across.
Like the fact the refs are making quicker decisions though.

Can't see anything other than an easy saints win but miracles happen

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 7:50 pm  

christopher wrote:

He wasn’t falling and wellsby had both feet off the ground and hit him directly on the head.

I have no idea what game you were watching but you’re wrong on both counts. Of course Broadbent was stepping and made himself small to go on the inside, Welsby overshot - first contact was actually on the ball after rewatching and went up over his shoulder and onto the head. Both feet were on the ground on initial contact and was lifted on contact as both players spun each other.

I’m fine and agree with other on here saying the key is consistency and wouldn’t think it’s a ban or a penalty try if it were the other way around either. In fact you take that tackle out of the situation and it’s wholly unremarkable. There’s a tackle a couple of sets later where Lees takes a forearm to the face (and gets a penalty) which as a careless/reckless shot perspective was far worse, but definitely nothing more than an in game penalty either.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:11 pm  

I was watching the same game as you but without the red vee tinted spectacles.

It was a reckless high tackle and should have been at least a yellow.

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:44 pm  

Only serious foul play should be banned. Are we that desperate to hope an opposition player gets a ban to give us a chance?!
Not for me….

Re: SL RD 3 | St Helens (A) : Sun Feb 26, 2023 8:50 pm  

Shabino wrote:

Only serious foul play should be banned. Are we that desperate to hope an opposition player gets a ban to give us a chance?!
Not for me….

Im not bothered as long as its consistent, i think a yellow or red and no ban is the fairest way to go, why should we get the advantage that Cas should have had.